Coronavirus(Again)

[ynnafymmi]

Maybe i am behind the times but didnt Barack Obama set up a commission to prevent such happenings such as this covid-19 outbreak.Why isnt Trump using this commission to stop the virus or at least using them in a helpful way.

[youngmafbog]

Oh dear, the usual Trump bashing, debunked again by Togo.

[Peter Pedant]

// I can’t imagine that a “commission” could stop a virus epidemic.//

quite right itch !

Hi Itchie ! - I was looking at fat BoJo and the two CMO and a 'scientist' who hadnt seen a white lab coat for a few years

and thought - they need Mrs Thatcher and her bucket and spade and duster ... wiping down the pod

and why hasnt Trmpo used the committee
because he is too busy with his mouth wide open

Fauci corrected him - no it isnt just flu mr president and there WILL be more deaths
and the result is....
his days at the White House are numbered

someone else being fired for being right

[jim360]

Togo's debunked nothing. Trump's handling of the crisis is questionable at the very least, and his continued attempt to deflect blame, to pretend that it's under "tremendous control", and to either lie deliberately or get basic facts wrong, are harming the US's ability to respond to this. And the thing is, this should be politically uncontroversial. Despite the ludicrous slurs earlier, nobody wants the US approach to fail as some kind of sick attempt to score points: it's manifestly in everybody's best interests for Trump's response to be effective. But it clearly has not been, and continues to fall short of what's needed. The declaration of a national emergency was a necessary and important step, and Trump's attempts to strike an optimistic note are not unreasonable of themselves. But it's not enough.

The only major saving grace for Trump is that no other Western government is handling this very well either.

[jim360]

In the interests of balance, would you care to condemn Trump's attempts at Obama-bashing, ymb?

[ToraToraTora]

jim:"Despite the ludicrous slurs earlier, nobody wants the US approach to fail as some kind of sick attempt to score points" - I can think of at least 3 people on here that want exactly that.

[jim360]

Then think again. There may a few people who would take a bit of macabre pleasure out of being able to say "told you so" at some point, but, unless they are genuine psychopaths, then they'd take more pleasure out of being wrong.

[mushroom25]

meanwhile, the American public take panic buying to a new level of scary.....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8116579/Nervous-Americans-start-panic-buying-GUNS-amid-coronavirus-panic.html

[ToraToraTora]

you are a regular here jim, you know who I'm talking about.

[Spicerack]

We wouldn't want to be posting 'doctored' videos to score cheap political points, would we, jim?

[mushroom25]

//The only major saving grace for Trump is that no other Western government is handling this very well either. //

The UK... 1400 confirmed casesof Covid-19, 35 deaths, 19 recoveries..
The US... 3000 confirmed cases, 57 deaths, 12 recoveries...
Norway... 1100 confirmed cases , 3 deaths, 1 recovery...

It doesn't take a genius to work out which one of those 3 countries is handling the pandemic better than the other 2.....

[ToraToraTora]

gawd elp us, septics buying more guns! they do know these viruses are tiny don't they?

[KARL]

Mushroom, you are letting facts get in the way of a perfectly good bias.

[Spicerack]

What 'facts' would they be?

[Spicerack]

//It doesn't take a genius to work out which one of those 3 countries is handling the pandemic better than the other 2...//

Obviously the US according to those stats. But there are all sorts of factors that mere stats can't tell you.

[Peter Pedant]

.\\ you are a regular here jim, you know who I'm talking about\\

I love puzzles said Alice I believe I can get this one .....

come on mystic meg - tell us who

[KARL]

The USA showing the best statistics with that death rate (the UK is worse for that matter) .....?

[Spicerack]

KARL//The USA showing the best statistics with that death rate?//

Duh, yeah.

[Peter Pedant]

// KARL//The USA showing the best statistics with that death rate?//
Duh, yeah.

the thing still is we dont know the denominator ( bottom line)
the nymerator is the no of dead bods - so we dont know the case fatality ratio with accuracy

even if we measure it bu the number of positive tests - it is still not comparable to other countries who have used difft criteria

easy to understand about the plague in 1665 (1348)
but I never thought I would write that about 2020

[Peter Pedant]

does anyone know the correct stat analysis of Mushies figures ?

I dont think the US and UK figures are different and yes Norway has a lower mortality

[Peter Pedant]

.. ust to be clear, the CDC is a long standing public US health arm in the US, and is not the agency that is being discussed here, which was the National Safety Council's global pandemic unit, which appears to have been neutered by John Bolton a couple of years back//

yeah making Amerikee great again means you can ignore events or diseases in other places- someone at the CDC said - you dont realise we dont do anything here - we have a budget 30% of what it was 5 y ago - you cant do new projects with that or continue old ones