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Is The Cure Worse Than The Disease?
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An interesting view from Peter Hitchens here. Has he got a point?
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When the pubs were ordered to close on March 20th and the other lockdown measures followed I posted somewhere on here that I doubt that it would do any good. I based my doubts on the fact that similar (if not harsher) measures had failed to halt the rise in the number of new cases in Italy (who were said to be about two weeks ahead of the UK with the crisis). Well we’re...
15:17 Sun 12th Apr 2020
They are knowingly recording wrongly, which seems deliberate to me?
As I said on a previous thread.... 90 year old who had kidney failure for many years, taken to hospital recently with multiple organ failure- no chance of recovering. Contracted pneumonia in hospital and tested positive for coronavirus on dying. Cause of death on certificate was "pneumonia and covid". Even though, she was never going to survive the organ failure.
As I said on a previous thread.... 90 year old who had kidney failure for many years, taken to hospital recently with multiple organ failure- no chance of recovering. Contracted pneumonia in hospital and tested positive for coronavirus on dying. Cause of death on certificate was "pneumonia and covid". Even though, she was never going to survive the organ failure.
It does not matter whether somebody dies of it or with it. What matters is when they die, versus when they would have died without it.
Do you want entire care home populations wiped out in days? Do you want thousands dying without even the chance of going into hospital, because hospitals are overwhelmed? Do you want mortuaries, crematoriums and funeral directors similarly incapacitated? Bodies buried in mass buriala, as in New York already?
Do you want our state to sanction the death of its citizens by not doing everything it can to protect them? We are at war, and pretending we're not would be giving up and letting the enemy invade.
Do you want entire care home populations wiped out in days? Do you want thousands dying without even the chance of going into hospital, because hospitals are overwhelmed? Do you want mortuaries, crematoriums and funeral directors similarly incapacitated? Bodies buried in mass buriala, as in New York already?
Do you want our state to sanction the death of its citizens by not doing everything it can to protect them? We are at war, and pretending we're not would be giving up and letting the enemy invade.
It's probably worth re-visiting the article I posted a couple of weeks ago by Dr John Lee.
Granted it's a few weeks old now which, in these fast moving times is lifetime, but the argument he provides remains valid.
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Eddie Large (78, overweight, an heart transplant patient and in hospital being treated for heart failure) died with the virus - what will his death certificate state as the cause of death? If Covid-19, then that's clearly a nonsense because in all likelihood he was probably already on his way out.
Granted it's a few weeks old now which, in these fast moving times is lifetime, but the argument he provides remains valid.
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Eddie Large (78, overweight, an heart transplant patient and in hospital being treated for heart failure) died with the virus - what will his death certificate state as the cause of death? If Covid-19, then that's clearly a nonsense because in all likelihood he was probably already on his way out.
We are getting reports across the world that hospital resources are stretched thin, and people are dying in far greater numbers in intensive care than usual. I'm curious why there is still a dispute that Coronavirus accelerates death, which is more or less identical to causing it. There will be difficulties for sure in understanding the overlap between those who would have died today anyway, and those who died today specifically because of Covid-19, but it's certainly not total.
Given also that not everyone who died from Covid-19 was known to have it there's at least as much reason to suppose that deaths are under-reported than over-reported. In the US, Fauci has said as much several times.
Given also that not everyone who died from Covid-19 was known to have it there's at least as much reason to suppose that deaths are under-reported than over-reported. In the US, Fauci has said as much several times.
It's a complete red herring, pixie. You are looking in the wrong place, misled by semantics.
New York, the best example of doing too little too late, has gone from 25 deaths per week to 24 deaths per day, and all of those extra deaths are CV-19 associated. With or of, who cares? Just how do you explain those extra deaths?
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New York, the best example of doing too little too late, has gone from 25 deaths per week to 24 deaths per day, and all of those extra deaths are CV-19 associated. With or of, who cares? Just how do you explain those extra deaths?
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