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webbo3 | 12:07 Thu 30th Apr 2020 | News
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She needed to keep herself in the public eye, so shes now an expert in virology.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/29/greta-thunberg-launches-campaign-fight-coronavirus/

\\Thunberg said in a statement that “like the climate crisis, the coronavirus pandemic is a child-rights crisis” that will affect youngsters now and in the long-term, especially the most vulnerable.//

Childs rights ?, its affecting everyone.

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//She's not wrong about climate change,...// She's wrong insofar as her criticism should be directed towards those who are exacerbating the problem to the greatest degree. That is China (30% of global emissions) the USA (14%) and India (7%). That's half of all global emissions. The UK is responsible for just over 1%. It could reduce its share to nothing...
15:49 Thu 30th Apr 2020
gotta hand it to GT, she makes a long thread on AB!
I'm just pleased that I got the 360th answer.
Late to answer you, Andy.....just celebrating winning the pubish quiz. It's not that she is criticised.....that's fine. It's how she is being criticised on here that is so sickening.
jim - // Perhaps compare to Captain Tom, in a way. Is he being manipulated, or do people merely recognise a heartwarming (or, at any rate, a major) story and want to be a part of it? //

That's stretching, even for you!

Do you seriously think there is a ghost of a comparison between a war veteran who walks round his garden of his own volition, and a damaged teenager flown round the world and paraded in public to parrot nonsense to world leaders?

Seriously?
gness - // Late to answer you, Andy.....just celebrating winning the pubish quiz. It's not that she is criticised.....that's fine. It's how she is being criticised on here that is so sickening. //

I would not attempt to explain or justify any posts on here other than my own, and insofar as I have criticised Ms Thunberg, I stand by every post I have offered.
Andy is criticising an analogy on the same thread he has compared her situation to that of Gary Glitter! Mind boggles.
Nickor - // Andy is criticising an analogy on the same thread he has compared her situation to that of Gary Glitter! //

Point one, I have offered no criticism to any analogy, and point two, I have not compared Ms Thunberg's 'situation' to Gary Glitter.

Managing to be wrong twice in one sentence takes some doing.

Not that's something to be proud of, but it's still quite difficult to achieve.
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Yes, I seriously think it's a reasonable comparison, but also no, I wasn't surprised that you went off on one. But consider: in both cases something that could feasibly have stayed small-scale ended up blowing up beyond the expectations of either of the instigators. Also, just to be clear: since Captain Tom started his charity walk he's received a promotion, an honorary flypast, a Number One single, at least two trains and three buses named after him... I could go on.

Bandwagons. That's the point. Oh, and the other point is that all this was for a worthy cause, too. I can't help but feel that you took the reaction unfavourably, but then, why? Captain Tom's efforts have raised over £30 million for the NHS and inspired many similar charity fundraisers for the cause, at a time when they need it most. There is simply no harm in the bandwagon effect here. As far as I'm concerned, the same is true for Thunberg, for a cause that is as important as the NHS is urgent.

The real reason, I said before, for any objection to Thunberg is discomfort with the message.

// ...paraded in public to parrot nonsense to world leaders? //

What of what she says is nonsense, and what objective evidence leads you to that conclusion? Goes back to the questions I asked earlier, doesn't it?
//Do you seriously think there is a ghost of a comparison between a war veteran who walks round his garden of his own volition, and a damaged teenager flown round the world and paraded in public to parrot nonsense to world leaders?//

Not in their deeds, no, but certainly in the way they captured the imagination of the public and inspired others to act, yeah, there's comparisons to be had.
I should also like to point out that the definition of an analogy is something that is not exact. I'm sure you can find differences between the two. That such differences exist doesn't negate the existence of similarities.
jim - // Yes, I seriously think it's a reasonable comparison, but also no, I wasn't surprised that you went off on one. //

I never 'go off on one' as you put it, but never mind.

// But consider: in both cases something that could feasibly have stayed small-scale ended up blowing up beyond the expectations of either of the instigators. Also, just to be clear: since Captain Tom started his charity walk he's received a promotion, an honorary flypast, a Number One single, at least two trains and three buses named after him... I could go on. //

// What of what she says is nonsense, and what objective evidence leads you to that conclusion? Goes back to the questions I asked earlier, doesn't it? //

That global warming, or indeed anything, is a child-centric phenomenon, when I am sure you will agree, it is not.
Had you put that in your post, I would not have criticised it. As it stood it merited query - explained it does not, but it's not my fault that you left seventy-five per cent of your point in your mind, and not in your post.
You're right, Mozz. In both situations there are elements of the British-type "Ah, bless"; "You go girl/man"; "Well done, than man/girl" emotive reactions.
//What of what she says is nonsense//

"You've stolen my childhood"

Nobody stole her childhood. She didn't have a very happy one but that was the fault of her parents for not getting her problems addressed.
jim - // I should also like to point out that the definition of an analogy is something that is not exact. I'm sure you can find differences between the two. That such differences exist doesn't negate the existence of similarities. //

No it doesn't - but I didn't suggest that it does.

I simply pointed out the ocean of difference, not the puddle of similarity.

We can all play semantics after a response to our posts, but I can only respond to what I have at the time.
sanmac - // You're right, Mozz. In both situations there are elements of the British-type "Ah, bless"; "You go girl/man"; "Well done, than man/girl" emotive reactions. //

As usual, you are late to the party - I have already addressed the concept of similarity.
//As usual, you are late to the party - I have already addressed the concept of similarity.//

A bit uncalled for Andy, especially as Sanmac wasnt even talking to you in their post.
Oh Mozz, you forget, it's ALL about andy once he's started.

Two demerit points.
//"You've stolen my childhood"//

God, I freaking well hate that line. I agree wholeheartedly with NJ in this instance.
Late, I'm late, I guess it's the bloody time-difference, old chap...Tsk tsk.

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