I'll Just Leave This Here

[douglas9401]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52779356

Feel free to divide down party lines

[Mozz71]

//if you had small children and you were likely to become incapable of looking after them, how could you follow that advice?//

Why was he likely to have been unable to look after his kids? Surely his parents were even more at risk of C-19 than the Cummings' were?

[woofgang]

so did he have the virus, did he have symptoms, or was it just his wife who had the virus?

[Zacs-Master]

That’s irrelevant, woof. Govt advice is:
‘ if you live with others and you are the first in the household to have symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19), then you must stay at home for at least 7 days, but all other household members who remain well must stay at home and not leave the house for 14 days. The 14-day period starts from the day when the first person in the house became ill.’

[ynnafymmi]

@10.31.You can feel sorry for him if you like,Bertrum.Most sensible people have nothing but contempt for this low-life chancer.

[naomi24]

//Why was he likely to have been unable to look after his kids?//

Because he had symptoms to indicate he'd been infected and therefore was likely to become ill. Anyone in that situation would have to arrange care for the children. They'd be very silly not to.

[douglas9401]

Luckily our Dom is an expert driver so the risk of accident or incident on his road trip were, obviously, vanishingly small.

What some see as contempt for the rules is actually just another manifestation of his great wisdom, foresight and concern for others.

Luckily it's all in the past now where it can be filed and forgotten along with all the other political dross that's swept under the carpet.

[Mozz71]

Depends. If he had been in contact with his kids already, the whole family should have isolated as a whole. By going to his parents, he risked spreading the infection to his parents, and then further if they fail to isolate. As his government kept telling us, it's a domino effect.

Whether right or wrong, he should have been towing the party line.

[sp1814]

douglas9401

You couldn't have made your point any better.

If Cummings was ill or though he was going to be ill, he should've followed government advice. He shouldn't have taken his children to his elderly parents.

It's the elderly who are most at risk.

As reported, this shows the same level of stupidity as displayed by Prof Neil Ferguson.

[Zacs-Master]

‘ Anyone in that situation would have to arrange care for the children’

Why so?
a) it’s against his own Govt’s advice
b) the children could have it and be asymptomatic thereby Potentially spreading The virus
c) the people who look after the children were in the vulnerable group

[sp1814]

Spot on Mozz71.

[ynnafymmi]

@10.47.He seemed to care about his children,Naomi,pity he didnt give a damn about his parents,who were more likely to catch covid-19 than his kids were.

[naomi24]

Of course, but I'm trying to put myself in that situation.

[Zacs-Master]

Naomi has painted herself into another corner. She’ll continue to argue her point despite clear logic and people’s answers showing that she’s completely wrong. Either that, or she’ll discover she suddenly has somewhere to be.

[mushroom25]

interestingly, Durham Police are said to have confirmed to the BBC they spoke to Mr Cummings' family on 31st March. whereas Downing Street said this morning that there had been no contact with the police at any time.


clearly someone is telling pork pies. but who?

[naomi24]

I haven't painted myself into anything zacs - and I don't make excuses to disappear from any thread so get a grip. I'm trying to put myself in the position of someone who has initial symptoms of the virus and children to care for. You're all assuming that his parents are vulnerable - but are they? How old are they - and what is their medical history? For all anyone here knows they might be relatively young and as fit as fleas.

[Zacs-Master]

There’s really no need to dissect Cummins’ actions any further than he went against his own guidelines. The argument stops there.

[naomi24]

Oops! :o)

[Zacs-Master]

Eh?

[ToraToraTora]

I think Naomi has a point, yeah the rules are the rules yada yada but which of us would do the same in that situation. As Douglas Bader once said "Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools".

[sp1814]

Dominic Cummings is 48.

It's likely his parents are at least in their 70s, unless they had him very young.

That makes them vulnerable, as from the beginning those in their 70s and above were told to isolate.

If I were in the same position, I would not expose my elderly parents to the disease. I would've isolated.