Ok So These Vandals Are On Film, I Look Forward To Their Prosecutions...

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52954305
....and don;' give me any "slave trader" ***, It's criminal damage pure and simple.

[Old_Geezer]

The past is a different place, they do things differently there. It's ludicrous to just the past using modern standards and beliefs rather than the standards and beliefs of the time. There is no excuse for destroying our historic treasures and reminders in an attempt to hide a past some hard of thinking folk don't like. And especially using a death on an entirely different continent as an excuse to act so. It's a pity it's so difficult to exile undesirables there days, the mismanaged "human rights" legislation is to blame for that.

[Old_Geezer]

...JUDGE...

[ToraToraTora]

don't sugar coat it DD!

[jno]

I'll go right on judging slavery, OG. I realise it's in the blood of the Anglo-Saxons but at least the Normans got rid of it.

[Jackdaw33]

How and when did the Normans abolish slavery?

[webbo3]

jno,
\\was he involved in thequote[ British ]slave trade, webbo? If so, then sure. But for myself, I don't want British slavers commemorated in Britain. His company transported 80,000+ slaves while he was involved; something like a quarter of then died on the voyage. Nobody with that much blood on his hands deserves a statue.//

where did he get his slaves.? black people had slaves as well.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/facts-about-slavery/

[Spicerack]

If you don't like the way we do things, jno, you could always return whence you came and create Utopia.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah I hope the police go round and kneel on their necks while saying - this will teach you to obey the law!

and the kneelee ( one who is kneeled on ) says froo clenched teef: "yeah I will bear this in mind in the next world!"

as 3T often says - foo them all !

blimey I am glad we have got back to something sensible after all that archie goo goo goo crap

[Old_Geezer]

One may judge folk today using today's standards, but it is irrational to judge yesteryear using the same criteria. The fellow was commemorated due to his philanthropy, not how he accumulated wealth. This is known and understood by those able to, but not those simply driven by the mob and it's influencers.

[Peter Pedant]

yup anglo saxons had slaves

Anglo-Saxons continued the slave system, sometimes in league with Norse traders often selling slaves to the Irish.

clearly these are not the ipssissima verba of Bede)(*) or St Anselm (*) - ( lanfranc, stigand or anyone else (*))

(*) who all dey den?

[Peter Pedant]

and it's influencers.
er its influencers - today;s standards of syntax are NOT good

[Spicerack]

I hear the crowd is revolting. This will end in bloodshed, let's hope it's rioters blood.

[Old_Geezer]

I don't agree that things can't possess. My door has a handle. It's the door's handle. It's it's handle. English definers need to sort it out.

[tomus42]

Vandalism of statues is a despicable thing and we are right to be angry about it. Statues matter.

[Deskdiary]

I fund it somewhat ironic that the AB censor deletes a post calling Gulliver a prat, and yet allows Gulliver’s pratish posts to remain.

Actually, I’m glad AB Nanny allows Gulliver’s posts to remain, because then it becomes clear to other AB’ers that Gulliver is an idiot.

[Bobbisox1]

Do what I do ( if it’s your own post)
Give BA so it’s there for all to see and laugh at till the thread disappears :0)

[TheWholeTruth]

"and white privilege to blame"

no...its white success blacks cant deal with....

[Deskdiary]

Crowbarring Thatcher into this thread is the height of idiocy.

[Jackdaw33]

It's = it is
Its = belonging to it.

Not too difficult.

[TheWholeTruth]

Next stop Egypt...get those pyramids down, built by mainly slaves.