Utter Lunacy 60 Statues To Go

[retrocop]

BLM have targeted 60 Statues and Plaques. Their choices are bizzare. Will we now have black stabbing victims picking and choosing what hospitals save their lives. They apparently now don't appreciate Guy's hospital. I am sure Guys didn't turn them away when they were bleeding to death.
Arms manufacture and Engineer Armstrong. Obviously BLM would have sooner lived under a Nazi regime. Armstrong Company manufactured the Armstrong Whiteley Bomber in the 2nd W.W.

Horatio Nelson, Drake et al. It has to stop. Full list in Link

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/09/hit-list-racist-statues-black-lives-matter-protesters-want-pulling-12827249/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&;utm_source=pushly

[shoota]

The plods?
The plods (UK) are blameless, whiter than white and deserve a pay rise and all retirees should have their pensions enhanced.

[shoota]

Whoever she represents Gherkin she wouldn't go on record with false statistics would she?
Especially as I think she has political ambitions...

[jim360]

I would need to dig into her stats before commenting further, but I'm not sure I agree that "going on record with false statistics" would ruin her political ambitions, or indeed anybody else's.

[Gherkins]

No one here is implying that the UK police are to blame.

My point was that the American police's actions caused riots in the UK. The protests were peaceful in America until rubber bullets were shot into peoples faces, old men were left bleeding with cracked skulls on the pavement and reporters were tear gassed and assaulted.

This caused worldwide outrage, leading to the events we can see across London.

Monkey see, monkey do. People witnessed the atrocity in America and decided to take part here in the UK. Yes, it is a shame for UK police and I sympathise with them to a degree.

I must say, though. Any ethical issue regarding the horses is on the police. They should not be using them as they do.

[Gherkins]

Especially in America, Jim. Are people forgetting who their president is? It's a joke.

[jim360]

I'm sure that police in the UK are held to much higher standards and are much more accountable, but it seems a stretch to say that they are blameless, whiter than white, etc. The death of Duggan, or de Menezes, or the various other deaths in custody, suggest that there is at least some room for improvement.

[shoota]

Horses are an invaluable crowd control aid and have saved many a copper/member of the public from getting a beating at football matches and in the past. I believe they were used on Saturday in the hope that the street could be cleared without using force. In my opinion the flare wielders and bicycle pushers were just waiting for them.
They weren't deployed on Sunday.
Dogs weren't deployed at all out of concern for the public.

[retrocop]

They saved my bacon at the Crown Criclewood to Downing Street demos shoota. I was glad to seem them there even though I called it a renegade when I got a slight kick from one when it was spooked by a bottle. I forgave it for the good it did later.

[shoota]

My 'whiter than white' post was a weak attempt at levity Jim.
(Except for the enhance retirees pensions bit...)

[shoota]

As an aside; the Floyd/Chauvin incident has received condemnation across the board from the serving and retired Police on the one FB page I frequent. Not one word has been said in support of Chauvin or his actions.
There is a modicum of sympathy for the two rookies who were present.

[retrocop]

//Sorry Retro, you're right. We've demolished your thread. I'll stop posting here, hopefully others may follow, but I won't hold my breath. Out. //

No worries. 'Shrug'. It happens. :-)

[jim360]

Apologies, then, for missing the levity, shoota. No harm done, I hope.

[royfromaus]

jim360
I would need to dig into her stats before commenting further,



I'm surprised that you haven't looked at the stats considering how many posts you have made on this whole saga.
I would have thought you being a mathematician you would be all over them.

[ToraToraTora]

retro 15:48, yes I did think that might be the case but TBF to Gherkin he is much more erudite than the person to which you refer. Wrong, of course but he does argue points with some ability.

[mushroom25]

// Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. //

George Orwell, "1984".

[Togo]

Are the statues for Lenin, Marx, Gandhi or Mandela on the list?
Is the Religion of Peace being singled out for demonstrations or vandalism to its places of importance because of a certain figurehead being the son of a slave owner? Answers on a post card to never never land.

I will never forget the rioting in America, or the copycat wannabe riots over here when that black American footballist murdered his white wife, fled across the Country live on National TV, and was acquitted by the corrupt "justice" system will you?

[webbo3]

yet we have a blue plaque in Bristol to Haile Selassie who's country only ended slavery in the 1920s

[Togo]

Go and chuck a can of black gloss all over it Webbo.......I will come and visit you in chokey.

[webbo3]

cheers mate, any chance of a file in a cake. ?

[Mozz71]

To be fair Webbo, it was Selassie who abolished slavery!