Nancy Astor A Nazi

[webbo3]

Next in line for some vandalism............. Nancy Astor.
Are they just vandalising anything they dont like, this will backfire massively on BLM.

So they are lauding over a man who stuck a gun in a pregnant womans stomach, next hey vandalise a statues of the first woman MP.

Perhaps its women they dont like.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-53161535

[maggiebee]

Not universally popular. This is part of the song The D Day Dodgers sung to the tune of Lily Marlene.

Now Lady Astor, get a load of this.
Don’t stand on your platform and talk a lot of ****
You’re the nation’s sweetheart, the nation’s pride,
But your lovely mouth is far too wide.
For we are the D-Day Dodgers in sunny Italy.

If you look around the mountains, through the mud and rain
You’ll find battered crosses, some which bear no name.
Heartbreak, toil and suffering gone
The boys beneath just slumber on.
For they were the D-Day Dodgers way out in Italy.

[woofgang]

she is an interesting one.....if you do research, its about 50 50 whether she was a wrong un or not. The story about the D Day Dodgers is that she didn't invent or use the phrase but a letter was written to her by a group of them signed "the D Day Dodgers" and she wrote back "Dear D Day Dodgers" Apparently also she was said to have said that England shouldn't go to war "simply because Hitler was giving the Jews a bit of a rough time"....as I say even if you hunt for published research its all a bit 50 50.

[woofgang]

My Dad was in Italy so I guess he was a D Day Dodger but I never heard him use the phrase or talk about the issue....in fact I knew nothing about it at all until recently.

[New Judge]

//My Dad was in Italy so I guess he was a D Day Dodger but I never heard him use the phrase...//

I not surprised. If his experiences were the same as many of the troops (who included Spike Milligan) in places like Monte Cassino I would imagine they would deck anybody who called them "D-Day dodgers".

[woofgang]

Indeed NJ but he didn't seem to bear any grudge either.

[THECORBYLOON]

Nancy Aston wasn't the first female MP, she was the first female MP to take her seat.

[Mamyalynne]

Nancy Astor has divided opinion for decades and I doubt that will change.

[david small]

Strange this fascination and preoccupation with the deeds of the dead.

[woofgang]

not really david, every civilisation has done it

[jim360]

For those who may have been offended by maggiebee's post, she's posted the lyrics to a song written by and sung by Allied soldiers in Italy. "The boys beneath just slumber on, For they were the D-Day Dodgers way out in Italy" is meant to express how bitter they are at being left out of the story, not meant to mock the dead. Anyone who got offended by it should pay more attention to the context, and probably owe maggiebee an apology for jumping to a nasty and utterly mistaken conclusion.

[Canary42]

/// My Dad was in Italy so I guess he was a D Day Dodger but I never heard him use the phrase or talk about the issue///

So was my Dad, but he never returned so I don't know whether he ever heard/used the term.

[woofgang]

Sorry to hear that Canary. According to the few bits my Dad let slip, it was pretty awful.

[naomi24]

Jim, Maggiebee referred to them as the D-Day Dodgers. No apology due from anyone except her ... to those men.

[jim360]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Day_Dodgers#The_Ballad_of_the_D-Day_Dodgers

It's a direct copy-and-paste from this link...

// The song was written in November 1944 by Lance-Sergeant Harry Pynn ...who was with the 78th Infantry Division just south of Bologna, Italy. [The song] generally and sarcastically referred to how easy their life in Italy was. Many Allied personnel in Italy had reason to be bitter //

maggiebee called nobody anything.

[naomi24]

Quote from maggiebee: //This is part of the song The D Day Dodgers sung to the tune of Lily Marlene. //

[jim360]

Read the link. Come back when you've read it. You've got this badly wrong.

[naomi24]

I've read the link.

[jim360]

Then what don't you understand? The song lyrics are written by the very people angry at being called that, and angry at Nancy Astor. Quoting those lyrics is no offence to the people who served in Italy.