Fireworks Control

[woofgang]

Yeah yeah grumpy spoilsport/why bother/more important stuff to worry about yadda yadda. But here is this year's firework control petition. Please sign and share if you feel you can. many thanks https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/319891

[dannyk13]

Ken, there is already legislation to cover the discharge of fireworks as described by you:-
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/13

[Ken4155]

To which the police must be turning a blind eye, Danny, judging by the persistence of the nuisance.

[melv16]

They could stipulate that all fireworks sold before a certain date should be silent ones.

[Ken4155]

They could also (depending on number of signatures of the petition) compromise along the lines of what OG suggests. Sort of, "Well we can't really ban the sale of ordinary fireworks to the general public but we can restrict the sale of the 'industrial' grade fireworks to organisations." That would alleviate the problem at the very least.

[woofgang]

melv silent fireworks don't exist.
There is no such thing as silent fireworks. This is copied from the government report.
Steve Raper, Vice Chairman of the British Fireworks Association, emphasised there were technical limitations on reducing noise from fireworks. He told us that:
"You cannot have an absolutely quiet firework. The lifting charge on a firework for a shot tube is about 95 decibels, and that is just the cartridge being ejected into the air."
If you don’t believe the British Fireworks Association then click on this fact checker.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/silent-fireworks/

Steve Raper is the Chairman of the BFA. His job is to keep his members in business. If there were silent fireworks, don't you think he and his members would be making them and selling them as hard as they could?

There are quieter fireworks and we are not being pedantic in splitting these two words. IF people believe there are SILENT fireworks they will believe they are the solution. Obviously they are NOT. For many reasons, not just the bang, although it would be great if that was removed, but they would not satisfy the ardent firework lovers. It would still be impossible to police the use of them and 365 days a year would still be legal.
PS. QuietER fireworks have been available for many years.

95 decibels is the same volume, roughly as being stood by the side of the road as a large motorbike goes past.
The "bang" is the propelling mechnism that gets the pack into the sky and the subsequent bangs propel the coloured bits out of the pachaging. No bang, no propulsion.

[woofgang]

To be clear, organised licensed displays are not the main issue. Provided they are well publicised, its possible for mitigation measures to be taken, they are too expensive to be frequent and (mostly) falling debris which can still be alight is not such a problem as with fireworks used in back gardens. Problems arise with legitimately purchased fireworks set off with no warning in unsuitable places by people who don't give a damn. Round here, public open spaces are used which is illegal, other people's fields regardless of the livestock in them, and tiny gardens not legally large enough for the fireworks used in them. Current legislation is does not control these issues.

[woofgang]

"ordinary" fireworks are not the ordinary fireworks of our youth. They are bigger and noisier.

[ladybirder]

OG I don't know if you live in the countryside or not but when I did I was horrified to see the cows in the field in front of my cottage tearing around in absolute terror at the sound of bangers going off. The whites of their eyes were glowing in the dark as they charged past. It was horrible to see, poor terrified creatures.
Oh and it wasn't the locals who were letting the fireworks off, it was the weekenders coming down to their holiday cottage with all their friends. The goats in the field opposite them weren't very happy either.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Signed & shared on FB.

[woofgang]

thanks APG and thanks to all signers and sharers. If you are on Twitter or Insta can I ask for shares on there too please?

[woofgang]

And yesterday after less than 48 hours, the new petition reached the "government response" stage of 10,000 signatories. It would be brilliant to see debates 4 years running!

[Lie-in King]

Signed.

[woofgang]

thank you. LIK if you are on any forums or social media, It would be great if you would share too please.

[Apc2604]

Signed and will share

[woofgang]

thank you

[diddlydo]

I love fireworks so the more the merrier. What I loathe is the constant bang,bang,bang from a nearby clay pigeon shoot every Sunday morning - how do the wimpish pets of many posters react to those?

[woofgang]

diddley there is no need to be insulting.

[diddlydo]

I was not being insulting but merely asking what obviously sensitive pets think/feel about the bangs from clay pigeon shoots.

[iluvmargie]

You were being insulting, you were calling terrified pets (who can't help it) wimpish.

[ladybirder]

I imagine most of us don't live near to a clay pigeon shoot so we wouldn't know.