Another Belter From T R O P.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54581827
.....words fail me.

[royfromaus]

But which f*** up Religious fundamentalism should I be worried about today, tomorrow, next month?

Go on have a bash at answering the question with honesty, Mozz.

[Mozz71]

Well, personally I'm not going to be worried about any of them, but you can make your own choices.

[Peter Pedant]

dont say anything mozzie

Did anyone do Radio 4 this am ? Fransh leddy - and she of course talked about l'exception francais
the idee that everyone has to follow EU rules xc the French

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_exception

an 'ee ( M Paty ) was doing the exception francais on free speech. In this case he can do the exception and talk about Mohd when he knows it is dangerous

and THEN she said - - did anyone get this? - "so M Paty was doing the exception to the exception francais an zat was why it was OK to stab heem !"

"the law is clear here" - she said - "portraying David Lammy is clearly unacceptable if you draw him as a monkey eating a banana
and M Paty should have respected the similar rules en France"

R4 Pretty said something like - well I think it is time to find out the weather on Orkney - Torquil are you there?

well there you are punters - something to be going on with
or as TTT might quip

B A R T - foo !

[naomi24]

To clarify, I’m not talking about the Crusades*, which were fought on entirely different principles. I’m talking about current day terrorism perpetrated by the followers of Islam. AH says that the disproportionate number of terrorists emanating from Islam relates directly to the high number of adherents to that religion. However, since Christianity is the biggest religion on the planet, employing his logic, Christians should be the foremost culprits but they’re not because unlike Islamists they do not have a distinct objective.

*From its inception the purpose of Islam has been to conquer. The atrocities committed by Muslims today, as at any other time through history, are encouraged by Islamic literature - the Koran in particular - allegedly the direct and, hence indisputable, word of Allah - the ultimate ambition to create an Islamic world. The Crusades were a joint venture designed to release the Holy Land from Islamic rule, and encouraged not by the direct word of the bible, which is not considered to be the direct word of God, and hence mutable, but by the fervour of Christian Europe.

Those crying ‘hatred’ or ‘racism’ or speculating on imagined reasons - eg they’re all psychotic attention seekers, make the mistake of endowing the mind of Islam with western attitudes and that does nothing to address the reality. It simply serves to stifle discussion and obfuscate. Another unpalatable truth.

[Old_Geezer]

IMO a major issue to the continuing problem is that there appears to be no single authority in Islam, so different groups can interpretation doctrine differently without any real challenge or control. Teachers instill their particular understanding locally to the next generation. Then externally, folk who are affected by extremist fundamentalists, view them as being the same as those who have a more evolved civilised interpretation of their religion.

[royfromaus]

Mozz71
Well, personally I'm not going to be worried about any of them, but you can make your own choices.
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The answer is clear to any honest person who has a grip on reality.

[Peter Pedant]

// Go on have a bash at answering the question, Mozz.//

why should he? no one else on AB does !

[Peter Pedant]

// that there appears to be no single authority in Islam,//

yup - more a way of life - and the local sheikh ( fella who teaches at the mosque ) can interpret what he likes

[piggynose]

You all talk about atrocities under the name of islam, what about our friends across the pond? Gun crime is practically a daily occurence, what religion does this come under? Evangelism?

[naomi24]

^None.

[allenlondon]

andy-hughes writes: “It has no more to do with Islam than Crusaders slaughtering Muslims had to do with Christianity.”

These words should be engraved on the foreheads of Tora3, naomi3, and all the rest of the massed ranks of the Answerbank extremists.

All religions have their lunatic fringe. We should seek out our common ground, not jump around like demented monkeys whenever we spot a nutter.

[allenlondon]

PP “ why should he? no one else on AB does !”

Made me smile, thanks!

[naomi24]

And there's me thinking you were going off to read up and learn a bit, Allen. No chance of that then. Ever heard the term 'useful idiot'?

[ToraToraTora]

less of the useful naomi

[naomi24]

Invaluable to some, TTT.

[youngmafbog]

I see the resident leftie thinks that all those that dont follow his doctrine are extremists. What a surprise.

[Peter Pedant]

// the direct word of the bible, which is not considered to be the direct word of God, and hence mutable//

why dont I just skim this stuff and not get upset by its obvious untruth ?
ho hum there is this stuff called 'inerrancy'
here have another spoonful:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_inerrancy#:~:text=Biblical%20inerrancy%20is%20the%20belief,biblical%20infallibility%3B%20others%20do%20not.

and Peter the Hermit who preached the first crusade ( wh we Brits never hear about as we were minor players) probably DID believe in it and its immutability

Bible text criicism is really only sixteenth century - erm a bit after the First Crusade ( 1096) that is! - and begins with Erasmus

atheists talking about the Bible and truth - oh god it has to be AB !

[douglas9401]

He's only trying to balance out the resident righty.

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[youngmafbog]

No he is not, he is not a nice leftie like you are.

[douglas9401]

Awwww, gawd bless ya guv'nor.