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Trouble Ahead.
Oh dear , "More people than ever now think Brexit was a Bad Idea, says the latest" "YouGov Poll" . And it aint even kicked in yet .
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I'm of the opinion that 75% of people who voted, whether it be to stop in, or out hadn't really got a clue of the finer details of what they were voting for, or fully understood the basics. ( I include myself by the way), apart from the obvious. Then you have no doubt a percentage that didn't even bother voting because their to busy holding their own lives together in...
12:21 Wed 18th Nov 2020
"Refusing to acknowledge or accept when you've lost is to try and deny the democratic process from taking place."
As far as Brexit goes, that argument is now obsolete.
We have fulfilled the democratic result of the referendum and left the EU.
What happened before was due to no one being able to agree on how it should be done.
As for the US, they've just had a plainly very free and fair election, and despite the hollering and stamping of feet, the democratic process will be followed.
Of course, there may be doubt in that process instilled by certain elements, and that could be a serious problem, but it's a different issue.
Ichkeria, //Of course trade deals are good: but now we need just one for 27 countries, not 27. We don't like them THAT much! //
So what? They'll be the ones facing restrictions, not us. If the EU prevents them trading with us (and it won't because it would be shooting itself in the foot) we'll trade elsewhere. There's a big world out there. I've no idea what your final sentence means.
So what? They'll be the ones facing restrictions, not us. If the EU prevents them trading with us (and it won't because it would be shooting itself in the foot) we'll trade elsewhere. There's a big world out there. I've no idea what your final sentence means.
//Some points to consider.//
Yes, let’s consider some of the points you raised:
//Sovereignty? Haven't we still got big ears and his mum in charge? What's changed?//
How silly do you want to get? The monarch in the UK long ago ceased to have power of any significance over the country’s affairs. Have a good read up about how and when that happened and then let us know if you still think “big ears and his mum” remain in charge. A very good ceremonial representation of the current situation can be witnessed at the State Opening of Parliament. Watch it one day and listen to the commentary (or read up what the ceremony represents). If you want a proper discussion look up the difference between the sovereign and sovereignty.
//Our courts are supreme, what are you on about?//
Have a read of the Treaty of Lisbon. You will find in there a passage which states that where there is any conflict, EU laws enjoy supremacy over those of member states. It’s quite true that national Parliaments have the power to refuse to comply with EU law. Then they will face the ECJ who will rule according to EU law and impose sanctions on the miscreant state. It’s like saying you’re perfectly free to rob a bank because you’ll only get sent to prison if you’re caught.
Come back when you’ve absorbed some facts rather than just chuck insults and nonsense about.
Yes, let’s consider some of the points you raised:
//Sovereignty? Haven't we still got big ears and his mum in charge? What's changed?//
How silly do you want to get? The monarch in the UK long ago ceased to have power of any significance over the country’s affairs. Have a good read up about how and when that happened and then let us know if you still think “big ears and his mum” remain in charge. A very good ceremonial representation of the current situation can be witnessed at the State Opening of Parliament. Watch it one day and listen to the commentary (or read up what the ceremony represents). If you want a proper discussion look up the difference between the sovereign and sovereignty.
//Our courts are supreme, what are you on about?//
Have a read of the Treaty of Lisbon. You will find in there a passage which states that where there is any conflict, EU laws enjoy supremacy over those of member states. It’s quite true that national Parliaments have the power to refuse to comply with EU law. Then they will face the ECJ who will rule according to EU law and impose sanctions on the miscreant state. It’s like saying you’re perfectly free to rob a bank because you’ll only get sent to prison if you’re caught.
Come back when you’ve absorbed some facts rather than just chuck insults and nonsense about.
"It's a project which, whatever form it takes, is based on avoiding the conflicts that tore the continent apart up until quite recently."
Seems to me to be doing it's best to generate dissatisfaction in nations which may eventually explode into conflict. Always took that claim of keeping peace with a barrel of salt. Economy & trade already gives an incentive for peace. NATO helped considerably too, just in case national interests threaten to escalate to war. But the EU ? Naw.
Seems to me to be doing it's best to generate dissatisfaction in nations which may eventually explode into conflict. Always took that claim of keeping peace with a barrel of salt. Economy & trade already gives an incentive for peace. NATO helped considerably too, just in case national interests threaten to escalate to war. But the EU ? Naw.