London Might Be Tier 3 Today

[brainiac]

Just when we thought things were improving, it's all getting much worse. The 5-day relaxation over Christmas is madness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55301192

[emmie]

Mayor Sadiq Khan urged ministers to act "with open eyes" and avoid damaging the capital's economy.

He said tier three could have a "catastrophic consequence" for hospitality, culture and retail, as household mixing indoors is banned.

[ladybirder]

COVID doesn't exist in Brighton & Hove. Or so you would think with 99% of the population.

[pastafreak]

I just read that.
Now I need to put in writing to my DD that I do not want them coming down here to collect me, and that I cannot visit them for Christmas. It's just not worth it. It's very upsetting...these are times I hate being alone. But it will be spring soon. I do not want anyone I know to be a statistic.
My brother is facing the same stateside. There is a gathering planned with several families and I know he's reluctant to take part. I plan to advise him and my SIL not to.
I knew things would get worse when lockdown was lifted.

[pastafreak]

emmie @13:02...it will be far more catastrophic for those who may become ill. Is he ignoring that?

[emmie]

these demos in London and Manchester can;t be properly policed, they don;t have the manpower for one thing.

[emmie]

seems he is.

[emmie]

this won;t die down for a long time to come, the vaccines are only just being rolled out and will take many moons to cover all the country.

[Bobbisox1]

It would be very silly of him to reduce any tier as it stands right now , some people in tier 3 will be staring on their leashes to party if he drops us to tier 2 on Wednesday

[emmie]

lets hope the many anti vaxxers and lockdown deniers don't need hospital treatment if they catch this virus.

[emmie]

AB is a relatively small group, many seem to want to do the right thing. Pasta i know what you mean.
But You cannot make people do what you want just because guidelines are laid down by Boris, Nichola etc.

[Bobbisox1]

Ah but will they refuse it;)

[emmie]

we won;t know.

[emmie]

whether one meets up for two days or five days it matters not a jot, if you are going to catch it you will.

[iluvmargie]

Stop picking on the anti vaxxers emmie, it's their prerogative not to take this rushed through vaccine if they don't want to and there are a
lot of them out there. You are so smug! And what's that dig about two or five days, I made that comment this morning, but you bring it up now?? You know nothing, it's just your opinion!

[emmie]

as its your to put your views.

[emmie]

Piers Corbyn brother of Jeremy is a denier that this covid 19 exists, he has led marches across London and Manchester recently against having the vaccine. If people don't have the vaccine that is there prerogative, but as some have pointed out if they catch it will they go to hospital to have it treated.

[iluvmargie]

Ah but I don't act like a big know it all like you. Nor do I continually spread doom and gloom.

[New Judge]

//...some people in tier 3 will be staring on their leashes to party if he drops us to tier 2 on Wednesday//

You cannot "party" under Tier 2 in England. Gatherings of more than two people (apart from those in the same household) are prohibited.

[emmie]

doom and gloom is that we have 60,000 dead or thereabouts, its spread right accross the world, its not going to go away any time soon.

[New Judge]

//If people don't have the vaccine that is there prerogative, but as some have pointed out if they catch it will they go to hospital to have it treated.//

Possibly. Though they are more likely not to need hospital treatment. At present the daily admissions to hospital is about 8% of the daily number who test positive. As well as that, of course, there are almost certainly large numbers of people who have contracted the virus but who have not been tested, so the percentage of those catching the virus who need to go to hospital is bound to be much lower.