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ichkeria | 08:02 Mon 05th Apr 2021 | News
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As a sort of side issue, at some point it will no longer be worth the expense of trying to stop the spread of the virus so meticulously,.
It really will be our interests for people to catch the thing, in the interests of aiding so-called herd immunity. At the moment, presumably the concern still is that the people who catch it, while not a danger to themselves, will spread it to people who are vulnerable, as we see in the case quoted above, for example.
So as long as the tests are targeted at and taken by people in specific situations fair enough. But it's worth bearing in mind that most people testing positive were reluctant to self-isolate, even in cases where they were the only family member required to do so. The "self-isolate" advice is now more draconian, if I have understood it.
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"we will have to see then, whether its like the test and trace fiasco. "

The problem with that was, it was talked up to ridiculous levels. It was obvious from the very start that it wasn't a path back to "normality" but for too long it was claimed that it was. I am reluctant to blame the government for things, but that was very irritating.
Again I ask why we need endless tests if we have had the vaccine?
/////Yes, but at least with a false negative you don't lose anything/////

Correct, except to go ahead and freely transmit the disease.
A disease which very soon, if the vaccines are all they are hyped up to be, will be little more than a cold.

It is a colossal waste of money and I wonder which of Hancocks crony's will get theri snout in the trough on this one.

It's time to move on from the tyranny this Government has unleashed on us, one does have to wonder if they are trying to get the numbers up to keep the narrative going. Hopefully that is the case but with Pinocchio Boris and weasel Hancock who knows. They seem to like the power a bit too much.
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"/////Yes, but at least with a false negative you don't lose anything/////

Correct, except to go ahead and freely transmit the disease. "

But as we know, with this virus, people with no symptoms spread it. That is probably the main cause of the spread being so hard to deal with. And it's one reason of many why the test and trace system was next to useless.
If someone is tested and is neagive, but actually does have the virus, then that is obviously bad, but it doesn't seem worth worryng about. Juat make the test better, if you can, but we can only do what we can do. These lateral flow tests are even less accurate.
PCR tests, in fact, seem to be pretty good.
I've had both vaccine doses so no I wont be testing myself.
Ich

/////Juat make the test better, if you can, but we can only do what we can do. These lateral flow tests are even less accurate.////

Agreed, but is it worth spending millions / billions on tests that may lull one into a state of security when one is transmitting the disease based on a false negative LFT?
The Government says it is and I say it isn't.
"Again I ask why we need endless tests if we have had the vaccine?"

Having the jag does not prevent folk from catching COVID but if they do, it reduces the effects of the symptoms and they might not be aware they have it.
not so much a waste as the wrong thing, just vaccinate everyone and have a means of showing it, end of.
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"Having the jag does not prevent folk from catching COVID but if they do, it reduces the effects of the symptoms and they might not be aware they have it. "

I think the vaccines stop you catching COVID: that is the whole point of them. What they are not proven to do is stop you spreading the coronavirus, which may not have given you the illness, but which might still be lurking in your passageways ready to infect someone else :-)
the government are basically demonstrating their libertarian values. They don't want to do what is necessary.
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"... stop you catching it if they work", I should have added.
But it was always the case that people could spread it without symptoms.
I think as long as enough people are at risk of serious health issues from catching it from those who aren't at serious risk, when they'll keep some measures in place.
ich: "I think the vaccines stop you catching COVID: that is the whole point of them. What they are not proven to do is stop you spreading the coronavirus," - you can't spread it if you ain't caught it!
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Yes you can.
We've had all this before.
Having said that, I thought more research and testing seemed to indicate that the vaccines did reduce the risk of the virus being spread by people who weren't ill.
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/////I think the vaccines stop you catching COVID: that is the whole point of them. ////
In theory yes, in practice no.
If vaccinated it stops all your symptoms OR minimises them.

You are correct about the transmission of the virus by a vaccinated individual.......questionable.
"Will the vaccine protect you?

The COVID-19 vaccine that you have had has been shown to reduce the chance of you suffering from COVID-19 disease. Each vaccine has been tested in more than 20,000 people and many have also been used safely in many different countries.

It may take few weeks for your body to build up some protection from the vaccine. Like all medicines, no vaccine is completely effective, so you should continue to take recommended precautions to avoid infection. Some people may still get COVID-19 despite having a vaccination, but this should be less severe"

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-what-to-expect-after-vaccination/what-to-expect-after-your-covid-19-vaccination#will-the-vaccine-protect-you
ich I know what you meant but that sentence sounded odd.
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Tora, you could think of a vaccinated person as like the handle of a supermarket trolley which Mrs Miggins has failed to assiduously wipe for flippin' ages while I wait behind her in the queue :-)
The handle won't get sick but traces of the virus may lurk on it.

As Corby indicates, though, with humans you could still get ill ...

Yes I think it's a complete waste of money because they are nowhere near accurate enough so what's the point? It seems like crumb throwing to the scaredy cats. And yes some people are going to make an awful lot of undeserved money out of this.

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