Anyone Been Watching The Derek Chauvin Trial?

[Spicerack]

I presume we're allowed to talk about it as it's all live-streamed on US tv.

[shoota]

Who are they?

[Atheist]

Shoota I don't know their names. I'm sure you realise that many people will be on his side. If you don't realise that, then maybe you are a bit naive.

[shoota]

'It was at this point that Nelson showed Mercil a series of photographs captured from the body worn camera of Officer Lane, and showing Chauvin’s knee on Floyd from the angle down Floyd’s proned body.

Photo 1: Where’s Chauvin’s leg in this image? On Floyd’s neck? Or on his shoulder blades and back. Mercil: Shoulder blades and back.

And in photo 2? Same. Photo 3? Same. Photo 4? Same.

This, of course, fundamentally undercuts the prosecution’s narrative of guilt that it was Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s neck that killed Floyd.

Are there circumstances like those already discussed where would be appropriate to maintain presence of leg across shoulder blades and back in order to ensure control of the suspect? Yes, there are, Mercil answered. For as long as 10 minutes? It’s possible.'

[Hymie]

Yes, the prosecution can call whoever they want as witnesses – but how did they find out these individuals had relevant information?

Some officers are giving details of training that the police are given – it does not seem an easy thing to find out who within a police force is most knowledgeable/relevant to give this information at the trial without the police force volunteering the person.

If the police have assisted the prosecution in this way (advising who they should call as witnesses), I don’t think it would be against the law – but it would certainly show whose side they are on.

[douglas9401]

Does 'shoulderblades and back' mean the compensation paid out will be recovered?

[shoota]

In my opinion Dougie (and I hold no brief for Chauvin), it means the Chauvin Goose may be in danger but is by no means cooked as some think.

[royfromaus]

BLM is just itching to burn up America.
If Chauvin is found not guilty America will burn like never before.

[douglas9401]

Oh I don't know, roy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_racial_violence_in_the_United_States

[andy-hughes]

douglas - // Does 'shoulderblades and back' mean the compensation paid out will be recovered? //

The compensation paid to Mr Floyd's family was paid by the city, in a civil case, and the outcome of the criminal proceedings should have no bearing on that.

If the city decides, once the verdict is in, that it should not have paid the compensation, they will probably have to sue the family in civil court to win the money back.

I would imagine that they will be keen to put this dreadful situation to bed asap, and will not be keen to prolong it by seeming to be mean-spirited in trying to get the compensation back.

[andy-hughes]

Roy - // BLM is just itching to burn up America.
If Chauvin is found not guilty America will burn like never before. //

History suggests that it will burn without any input from BLM - black people were protesting violation of their rights long before BLM came along.

[royfromaus]

Yes, but if you keep your eye on BLM you will know they are going to burn down America.

[douglas9401]

"a civil case" = desperate, knee-jerk attempt to get the usual suspects off the streets and back where they came from and get normal life going again.

In my opinion.

[THECORBYLOON]

SHOOTA, the witness was being asked about the use of body weight when the ten minutes was mentioned and not about specific placement of a knee on the back.

I know you are quoting from a site so you're not to blame but the details given are not accurate.

[shoota]

It's direct from a transcript of the trial taken by an attorney who is following it - it's all on the link.

[playersdigger]

I have been watching court TV since the start of the trial. There is a great deal of photographic and video evidence. I am no liberal and I do support our UK police but from what I have viewed in detail it seems to me its an open and shut case against Derek Chauvin. There is so much evidence against him,even from his own police.

[THECORBYLOON]

SHOOTA, it's on YouTube from about 12:30 onward.

https://youtu.be/RwKft_Aqokc

[shoota]

Corby - the evidence about the knee placement starts at 9 minutes and is before the evidence about restraining for 10 minutes. I don't see what you are arguing with.

[Khandro]

Bad cop versus bad individual ? - may as well toss a coin. Though for the record, I'm slightly on the side of the bad cop.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // Bad cop versus bad individual ? - may as well toss a coin. //

Really?

Only one of them swears to 'protect and serve', and is paid to do so.

[THECORBYLOON]

The defence doesn't ask,

"Are there circumstances like those already discussed where would be appropriate to maintain presence of leg across shoulder blades and back in order to ensure control of the suspect?"

He asks about using body weight.