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Unlocked Part Two
How many Abers think the UK will be unlocked on July 19th ?.
I think No.... , anyone agree with me.
I think No.... , anyone agree with me.
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it is the son of the Indian variant which is more transmissible ( less virus required to infect someone)
I suspect that boffins have said that this will go on happening unless you vaccinate the whole population
yeah and zero covid is a pipedream
( dont we have a whole thread on the last gasp of flu=covid ?) ( so dont do anything but go out and have a good time)
I suspect that boffins have said that this will go on happening unless you vaccinate the whole population
yeah and zero covid is a pipedream
( dont we have a whole thread on the last gasp of flu=covid ?) ( so dont do anything but go out and have a good time)
I think that Johnson does not want to go down in history as the one who completely killed the UK with not only Brexit but also his pandemic performance. I think he will wait to see what happens after another 4 weeks of vaccination and then spaff into a 'decision' based on what the boffins tell him. Of course, he and all the other fat cats will survive this stuff, but his vanity will play a part. Rees-Mogg and his ilk won't give a toss, but BJ wants to be loved.
About two weeks ago the Prime Minister "saw no reason why the remaining restrictions could not be lifted on 21st June." At that time the Delta variant was well known about. New infections had increased by about 50% from a fortnight earlier. The vaccination rate had remained steady since about the middle of March. Hospitalisations were increasing (though at nothing like the rate of new infections).
Today Boris Johnson said there would be a review after two weeks and he was "confident" the delay would not need to be longer than four weeks.
I didn't believe the PM two weeks ago. I don't believe him now.
Today Boris Johnson said there would be a review after two weeks and he was "confident" the delay would not need to be longer than four weeks.
I didn't believe the PM two weeks ago. I don't believe him now.
Give the man a break. Would anyone here want to make the decisions and announcements he's had to make since he landed in No 10?
This situation is changing on a daily basis so it is impossible to say what the next four weeks will bring. Of course we all want our freedom back but more than anything I want this pandemic to be over and Covid-19 to be a distant memory.
This situation is changing on a daily basis so it is impossible to say what the next four weeks will bring. Of course we all want our freedom back but more than anything I want this pandemic to be over and Covid-19 to be a distant memory.
//People have been softened up to suck up this latest delay but they won't tolerate another one.//
Sorry, jd. I don't see it that way. Operation "Soften Up II" will begin in a week or two. Hospitalisations will probably increase; a new variant "may have been detected"; "a little longer period to study the data may be needed"; "don't want to undo all the good work"; blah blah blah, etc. etc. etc. Dr Death will be wheeled out with another of his incomprehensible charts and a further delay will be announced. When you say people will not tolerate another delay, apart from ditching their face masks, what do you expect they will do?
Sorry, jd. I don't see it that way. Operation "Soften Up II" will begin in a week or two. Hospitalisations will probably increase; a new variant "may have been detected"; "a little longer period to study the data may be needed"; "don't want to undo all the good work"; blah blah blah, etc. etc. etc. Dr Death will be wheeled out with another of his incomprehensible charts and a further delay will be announced. When you say people will not tolerate another delay, apart from ditching their face masks, what do you expect they will do?
//...more than anything I want this pandemic to be over and Covid-19 to be a distant memory.//
You're in for a long wait then, Lady CG. This pandemic will not be over any time soon. The virus will be around for years, if not decades to come. Descendants of the 1957 and 1968 'flu pandemics are still around today and manifest themselves every winter.
What the country needs is a government which accepts that and accepts that the virus will not be eliminated. It needs to instil in the population that people will contract the disease and the only thing they can do is to get vaccinated so as to protect themselves as far as possible. After that they've got to get on with their lives.
You're in for a long wait then, Lady CG. This pandemic will not be over any time soon. The virus will be around for years, if not decades to come. Descendants of the 1957 and 1968 'flu pandemics are still around today and manifest themselves every winter.
What the country needs is a government which accepts that and accepts that the virus will not be eliminated. It needs to instil in the population that people will contract the disease and the only thing they can do is to get vaccinated so as to protect themselves as far as possible. After that they've got to get on with their lives.
Dates have now ceased to be of interest to us. We will both cease to comply with any anti-Covid regulations from that date. It will be difficult to notice the difference t.b.h., since we live so quietly, but it is there and enough is enough. I do hope that one of us gets arrested for something, it will be a new experience.
Boris has really lost it in that he doesn't seem to understand how many 'reasonable conservative-minded people' he has lost through all this. 80% of the adult population is vaccinated, for goodness' sake!
Boris has really lost it in that he doesn't seem to understand how many 'reasonable conservative-minded people' he has lost through all this. 80% of the adult population is vaccinated, for goodness' sake!
//We will both cease to comply with any anti-Covid regulations from that date.//
I think people are missing the point, jourdain. There are few restrictions that affect individuals (or at least any that they can defy). About the only one is face coverings. All the rest and those which are causing so much damage, relate to businesses. They cannot defy the regulations (e.g. pubs must continue with "social distancing", restaurants must continue to run at 50% capacity, businesses with office workers must continue to see that they WFH were possible). Most of these businesses rely on licences which are controlled by local authorities who will be more than pleased to enforce the legislation with gusto, with the ultimate sanction - loss of licence - in their armoury.
Headlines tomorrow:
Daily Telegraph "It's definitely July 19th...unless it's not"
Daily Mail: "PM: curbs could go on and on"
Operation Soften Up II has begun sooner than I thought.
I think people are missing the point, jourdain. There are few restrictions that affect individuals (or at least any that they can defy). About the only one is face coverings. All the rest and those which are causing so much damage, relate to businesses. They cannot defy the regulations (e.g. pubs must continue with "social distancing", restaurants must continue to run at 50% capacity, businesses with office workers must continue to see that they WFH were possible). Most of these businesses rely on licences which are controlled by local authorities who will be more than pleased to enforce the legislation with gusto, with the ultimate sanction - loss of licence - in their armoury.
Headlines tomorrow:
Daily Telegraph "It's definitely July 19th...unless it's not"
Daily Mail: "PM: curbs could go on and on"
Operation Soften Up II has begun sooner than I thought.
