Afghanistan: 200-Year History Tells The Same Old Story

[gl556tr]

2001-09-11. The catastrophe of this day triggered Blair's signing up with Bush to invade Afghanistan. Yet again.

What followed was a textbook case of Aldous Huxley’s adage that the only thing you learn from history is that no one learns from history.

[ynnafymmi]

But Bin Laden wasnt hiding out in Saudi Arabia,Gromit/sunk,him and the rest of his terrorist gang were being sheltered by the nutjobs in Afghanistan.If he had been hiding out in SA then we would never have had to invade Afghanistan to seize the ***r,we could have just had him extradited to face justice for his crimes against humanity.

[Gromit]

ynnafymmi
OBL was in Pakistan.

[emmie]

yes he was....

[Stickybottle]

Gromit
ynnafymmi
OBL was in Pakistan

That was my impression too and indeed was in the country for at least seven and a half years prior to his death as confirmed by one of his wives

[ynnafymmi]

When he finally faced justice he was in Pakistan,but after the 09/11 bombings he was hiding out in Afghanistan.(Probably under a rock).

[Gromit]

The US bombed the crap out of Tora Bora but didn’t kill OBL because he wasn’t there.
Saudi Arabia set up Madrases (schools) in Pakistan which were the breeding grounds for the jihadist Mujahedin that became al Qaeda.
Weapons were smuggled into Afghanistan from Pakistan. Jihadist soldier came from their, and OBL compound was eventually found there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tora_Bora

[ynnafymmi]

But he was thought to be hiding out in Afghanistan.The fact he finally faced justice in a compound in Pakistan doesnt mean he was in the compound all that time between the Twin Towers bombings and his meeting with 72 virgins.(Hopefully male virgins)

[Gromit]

The US invaded in early October 2001.
But it was 2 months later they went to Tora Bora looking for OBL.
Do you think he just sat there for 8 weeks waiting for them to come and get him. He had scarpered long before December 2001.

[johnny.5]

[Gromit]

This is worth a listen.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/political-scene/dexter-filkins-on-the-fall-of-afghanistan

[DTCwordfan]

In October 1963, when Harold Macmillan was handing over the premiership to Alec Douglas-Home, he is supposed to have called the younger man to his office and passed on some reassuring advice. “My dear boy,” he said, “as long as you don’t invade Afghanistan you’ll be absolutely fine.”

Shame Major didn't counsel the Toe with the same advice.

[DTCwordfan]

But then Major wasn't capable of counselling anybody.

[ynnafymmi]

Wasnt the Afghanistan project a Labour Party project,DTC.Seems like the Labour Party and their supporters and cheerleaders owe us Brits a whole lot of apologies.As ive said a million times before-bloody socialists-just cant trust em.

[Gromit]

// But he also promised the country would not abandon Afganistan once the fighting was over.

Mr Blair told delegates: "To the Afghan people we make this commitment. We will not walk away, as the outside world has done so many times before." //

- Tony Liar 2001

[jno]

prime ministers can't restrict the actions of their successors. If Boris wishes to ignore a promise made on behalf of the country he now rules, he is free to do so.

[naomi24]

Boris hasn’t ‘ignored’ a promise…. but you know that, Jno.

[davebro]

//But then Major wasn't capable of counselling anybody.//

But he seems to think he is now!