Rebranding Prince Andrew

[sp1814]

If you were given the task of rebranding/rehabilitating Prince Andrew, how would you go about it?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/28/rebranding-prince-andrew-now-theres-a-real-mission-impossible

Unless someone can think of some way to blame Harry and Meghan, I think this may be a non-starter.

[emmie]

i would hazard a guess that Prince Philip had a hand in that
duty above all else...

[AuntPG]

Why does he need rebranding anyway? Apart from HRH The Queen they have all be at it over the years, male and female. His brother Charles first started dating Diana who was 17 at the time, when he was in his 30's I think. When the Queen passes away they should all be put out to grass and make Jacob Rees-Mogg President ha ha

[emmie]

remember that Charles dated Diana's sister long before he found love, or what was it he said at the time, "whatever love is", with Diana.

[rowanwitch]

The Queen's favourite son thing seems to arise from the earlier years of her reign when duties reduced the time she could spend with her first two children,as she was learning the job and still grieving for her father, by the time Andrew came along there were less pressures on her and she was probably in a better place emotionally. Maybe just a better chance of bonding

[Peter Pedant]

// I've said it before - Governor of South Georgia & The Sandwich Islands, the Falklands possibly to be added on.//

no not the falklands they have women there
sarf georgia - is empty innit?

[sp1814]

ynnafymmi

Apologies - Sunday morning ritual. Went to the gym...but I'll be honest with you, I'm going to ignore your post from 8.52 as responding to it might make this thread go off course.

naomi24 - you're right. He shouldn't be labelled a sex pest for having sex with a 17 year old in this country - that's not below the age of consent.

The problem is that if it's true that this girl was a victim of sex trafficking and PA was a willing participant, then his actions can be seen as 'less-than'innocent'.

Also his brand has been damaged by his continued relationship with Jeffrey Epstein after his conviction of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18.

So it's not just the sex with a teenager who was allegedly coerced...but him flying to New York to go to dinner with Jeffrey Epstein that that's the problem

[Peter Pedant]

whats wrong with being a mummy's boy?

we have duties you know! - my brudda ( no not Prince Charles) said to moi " you played the game" and I thought that is what being a mummy's boy is all about. ( yeah ok the 16 y old bit was a bit orf)

[sp1814]

naomi24

I'm shocked that you assume this young girl went back and partied with this group of her own volition.

This isn't how sex trafficking works.

I've seen interviews with VG and she educated me on how this form of abuse works.

[Peter Pedant]

// naomi24 - you're right. He shouldn't be labelled a sex pest for having sex with a 17 year old in this country - that's not below the age of consent.//

you cant be a sex pest if she is over 16? - o god AB mainstream craziness on a sunday morning - situation normal then

[bednobs]

Andres how do you know the queen blocked Andrew from leaving active service? The same way other people know he's her fave son I expect!

[rowanwitch]

A man would be a sex pest if she was 80 and he was 81. Met my share of them through the years, before the law could be bothered you dealt with it either on your own or with the help of friends.
I could easily believe Andrew thought a girl would be willing, because why wouldn't she be, his position would not have been conducive to learning to recognise rejection. I do think he showed absolutely rubbish judgement in finding friends

[andres]

Same way that most Abers know everything ---from the media.
Seriously though I do remember at the time when the Government wanted to remove Andrew from active duty that the Queen was reported to refuse .

[andres]

to bednobs [email protected]^^

[naomi24]

SP, //Also his brand has been damaged by his continued relationship with Jeffrey Epstein after his conviction of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18.//

And even more so I would guess by the news of his alleged friendship with Harvey Weinstein….

https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/photo-shows-jeffrey-epstein-harvey-weinstein-at-prince-andrews-party/

Foolish man.

[naomi24]

//I could easily believe Andrew thought a girl would be willing//

Me too if it were that 17year old. Girls who go back for more aren't saying 'no'.

[jno]

he might feel at home governing Pitcairn, PP

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103569364&t=1630232612889

[sp1814]

naomi24

I'd be careful of jumping to conclusions.

A girl of 17 could be coerced (say) if the ringleader had compromising photos of the girl. His New York apartment was apparently bristling with CCTV.

I don't know the details of course - but this article is quite illuminating:

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2019/07/237695/jeffrey-epstein-child-grooming-abuse-effects

[sp1814]

naomi24

"Me too if it were that 17year old. Girls who go back for more aren't saying 'no'."

Sailing dangerously close to "she asked for it".

[Khandro]

//Sailing dangerously close to "she asked for it".//

I don't think she needed to, her presence was enough at such a place.
Why else would a 17 year old girl want to be at a party with a lot of old men?

[sp1814]

Khandro

Have a look at the link I posted on how grooming works.