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What Do The Climate Change Activists Want And What Do They Suggest We Do To Achieve It?

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dave50 | 12:29 Mon 08th Nov 2021 | News
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They always say they want more done to combat climate change but there are never any specifics. Looking at most of the banners you see on the marchers it seems its more about socialism and anti capitalism rather than the climate which is what I have suspected all along.
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To be a CCA, you need an unassaible level of arrogance and self-importance. Your default position is that only you, and people who think like you, actually understand what is going on in the world - everyone else is just a stupid ignorant moron who doesn't care, and is happy to blunder into the apocolypse without a care in the world. Of course, this is as fatuous...
12:44 Mon 08th Nov 2021
Well maybe you have answered your own question then.
I'd ignore them if I was you and focus on the sensible people who are trying to make it work.
To be a CCA, you need an unassaible level of arrogance and self-importance.

Your default position is that only you, and people who think like you, actually understand what is going on in the world - everyone else is just a stupid ignorant moron who doesn't care, and is happy to blunder into the apocolypse without a care in the world.

Of course, this is as fatuous as it is arrogant, but that is how climate chamgers view the world.

What they want is for the people they see as the cause of the problem, stupid blinkered ignorant politicians, to wake up and 'do smething' before it is all too late.

That of course is as simplistic as it is arrogant, again the hallmark of the terminally self-obsessed who make a lot of noise to mask their own deep-seated insecurities, and the dreadful fear that they may go through life not being noticed.

The simple fact is, if the science is to be believed, and I am not at all sure that the measures called for, to 'reduce emmissions' will actually stop the earth heating up anyway, then the solutions are anything but simple.

The changes needed by the civilsed world in the way it lives and operates, as seen by the 'changers' are so fundamental and drastic that there is not a hope in hell of them being implemented.

Every single measure the zealots want to put in place creates either costs rising, or fundamental livestyle changes. or both, for the world.

Given that human nature is that people don't want changes that make them either miserable, or poorer, or both, have no chance of getting off the ground, the current obsession with 'climate change' is nothing more than a gigantic waste of time and effort.

Taking into account that the two biggest creators of pollution - China and Russia, are happy to siply ignore giant talkng shops where everyone jets in to hand-wring and promise differences which will never happen, the whole nonsense should be seen for what it is - attention-seeking self-aggrandaisement by people who have far too much time on their hands, and the willingness to make a lost cause their life's work, and make as much noise and cause as much inconvenience as they can doing it.
Demos draw all sorts of hangers on in fairness.
Everyone likes a nice banner ;-)
For the serious climate change folk I think there are lots of specifics. Many are not wholly practical. Some are.
Well, according to Saint Greta - none more 'active' than her - referring to the recent meeting of world leaders, “you can shove your climate crisis up your ***”

That'll help.

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/greta-thunberg-cop26-swear-b1950644.html

I'm with you, dave. Political activists - and not of the best sort.
Greta Thunberg was interviewed by Andrew Marr and I was surprised at how inarticulate she was.
But also very natural.
Anyone who thinks she is being "manipulated" is very wrong.
Anyone who is brainwashed and only really knows a single topic will come across as 'natural'.

Just look at the religious zealots, an answer for everything. Must of the 'man made' climate stuff touted by these so called activists are the same. The Climatodians believe in it just like a religion.
ich - // Anyone who thinks she is being "manipulated" is very wrong. //

Because she 'sounds natural'?

That's a pre-requisite of abused individuals - they can't have her weeping and cutting herself on television, can they!!
// Greta Thunberg was interviewed by Andrew Marr and I was surprised at how inarticulate she was.//

She has well documented mental health issues and English is her second language -how articulate do you expect her to be?

//But also very natural.//

I would call it Brain Washed.
They cannot have any credibility when they ignore the big contributors and go after the top responders. When I see them in Beijing I'll give them the time of day.
Barrack Obama has flown from the USA to tell everyone that the world 'needs to do something'.
Apart from the fact that both his predecessor and his successor both refused to have anything to do with 'climate change' and withdrew his country from the organisation set up to deal with it, I could have emailed sentiment for free and saved him the time, trouble, and expense of jetting across the world to do it, leaving a trail of pollution behind him as he did so.

But come to think of it, he could have done that as well.

There's a thought...
So many bells ringing here it's scary.
Here's the COP26 protest, note the biggest flags and the unison flag, what do these have to do with climate change?
https://ibb.co/SP9TpWR
webbo3 - // Here's the COP26 protest, note the biggest flags and the unison flag, what do these have to do with climate change? //

The same as COP 26 itself - nothing whatsoever.
Thanks Andy.
The socialist worker party try to get their toe in the door of anyone with a protest to make hoping that by doing so they will join their party.
dave50 'What Do The Climate Change Activists Want And What Do They Suggest We Do To Achieve It?'

I suggest perhaps what they may want, assuming 'they' have a collective message for the world is..
"DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION"

The history of the scientific discovery of climate change began in the early 19th century when ice ages and other natural changes in paleoclimate were first suspected and the natural greenhouse effect was first identified.

In the 1800s, experiments suggesting that human-produced carbon dioxide (CO2) and other gases could collect in the atmosphere and insulate Earth were met with more curiosity than concern. By the late 1950s, CO2 readings would offer some of the first data to corroborate the global warming theory.

Worth a read..
https://mercmessenger.com/future-shock-and-preparing-to-adapt-to-climate-change

We’re afraid to face up to the future. We want to flee from it instead of engage it. It seems too daunting for us to contemplate. And the deniers provide fanatical opposition we don’t seem to have the grit to challenge. We’re in a state of paralysis, a state of “future shock,” as Alvin Toffler described it in his book of the same name.

When Toffler wrote Future Shock in 1961-1962, he defined a psychological condition that most people in the world were suffering through even then, but trying to deny — the emotional confusion, anxiety and revulsion caused by a world that is changing too fast for us to cope with in a way that feels calmly rational and practical.

I first read Future Shock in 1971 and was struck by the very first paragraph. “This is a book about what happens to people when they are overwhelmed by change. It’s about the ways in which we adapt — or fail to adapt — to the future.” Global warming is a Toffleresque moment in history, one in which “the roaring current of change, a current so powerful today that it overwhelms institutions, shifts our values and shrivels our roots.” And it’s all come glaringly into public consciousness in an historical blink of the eye. We’ve gone from a world to which our species has adapted to the threat of a world that will be radically inhospitable to how we presently live our lives and earn our livings.
So what do we do with cumbre vieja?have they discussed this at cop26?
What Do The Climate Change Activists Want And What Do They Suggest We Do To Achieve It?

If you still have to ask then it is already too late (for you)
Stickybottle - I refer you to the BA - you should find yourself on familiar ground.
Your reply suggests that true believers have inside knowledge and will be spared the horrors to come, Stickybottle.

How will the lateness of the hour affect your camp (and ours)?

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