First U K Death From Omicron

[Stickybottle]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-59632655

A few on here seemed to be gloating that there had not been a death from it and it was not going to be so bad

Wake up people

[Smowball]

Yep just seen it on the news : (

[brian j john]

It says with not from

[mushroom25]

it also doesn't say if the victim was vaccinated or not, was old or young, or whether they had underlying health issues.......

[roslyn251254]

mushroom ... you beat me to it!

[Gromit]

That didn’t take long.

// Health Secretary Sajid Javid meanwhile warns the variant is spreading at a rate "that we've never seen before" with Covid //

Not good.

[bobbinwales]

And someone scoffed at me and said I was on a odessy when I said we should wait and see before dismissing restrictions as unnecessary as noone had died. They also scoffed at me for saying that reading between the lines the scientists may fear vaccines for unboosted are less effective for omicron so it spreads more...and then a few hours later the announcement was made saying that was the case so boosters are to be accelerated.
I hope it all turns out to be a storm in a teacup and we can loosen up again but it's not looking great to me sadly.

[Stickybottle]

mushroom25
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it also doesn't say if the victim was vaccinated or not, was old or young, or whether they had underlying health issues.......

Marvellous !
Let us play semantics as the numbers begin to rise yes ?
Those questions will be answered in the fullness of time but right now

Does it really matter when the number will rise exponentially ?

[MrsCheese]

well a full proof way to get everyone boosted and living in fear.

[Gromit]

// The prime minister said "Here in the capital Omicron probably represents about 40% of the cases. By tomorrow it'll be the majority of the cases and it's increasing the whole time." //

Not good.

[Stickybottle]

MrsCheese
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well a full proof way to get everyone boosted and living in fear.

But not foolproof it would seem

[andy-hughes]

Stickybottle - // mushroom25
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it also doesn't say if the victim was vaccinated or not, was old or young, or whether they had underlying health issues.......

Marvellous !
Let us play semantics as the numbers begin to rise yes ?
Those questions will be answered in the fullness of time but right now

Does it really matter when the number will rise exponentially ? //

It does matter, because it highlights the inaccuracy of the information the government is offering.

Quite apart from wondering exactly what we are supposed to do with the statistical information that is pumped out daily about Covid deaths, the fact that the numbers do not reflect accurately the actual deaths from the virus is a matter of concern.

If I catch Covid, and I die from it, I am a Covid statistic.

If I have terminal cancer, and two weeks to live, and I fall over and fracture my skull and am admitted to hospital, and never regain consciousness, but am infected with Covid, and then die a day later, I am still a Covid statistic, even though by any common-sense analysis, I did not die from the Covid infection.

Extrapolate that across the entire country, and you have a seriously distorted set of figures about the deaths from Covid, and that is not information, that is scare-mongering.

Similarly, the current variant will be nasty if caught, and will kill some people, but it is not the Black Death, and the endless hysteria has got to stop.

Covid is here, it is not going to go away.

We have to assimilate it into our culture and get on with our lives, instead of being told to live in fear, and lose our basic freedoms.

We are in danger of 'saving' a world that no-one is really going to want to live in.

[bobbinwales]

Why would they want to get you boosted and living in fear ? As every major goverment got some secret agenda misschese

[jim360]

We can already probably see the effects of Omicron in the full data. It stands to reason that it's harder to prove that a given death is specifically from Omicron, rather than with it, but since Omicron arrived in the UK* we've seen cases rise, and the trend of hospitalisations and deaths reverse from its previous slow decline.

*NB cases started rising a few weeks before November 27th, but it's virtually certain that Omicron arrived in the UK before we detected it, so at least some of that rise is going to correspond to cases that are Omicron without being formally identified as such.

[Peter Pedant]

excuse me
//Let us play semantics as the numbers begin to rise yes ?//

is not a sentence in English: I should know.

semantics is about meaning and shades of meaning ( syntax whether the words fit together [ the boy play / / or the boy plays]

and there isnt much semantic about - has he been vaccinated....or was he old? - or did he live in London

[Spicerack]

I haven't noticed anyone gloating about people not dying.
But this is just one of many posts gloating about people who have died.
sigh . I know it's not your fault.

[pixie374]

What for, sb? What are you expecting us to do with this information?
Those that don't care, don't care. Those that do, won't change behaviour now and those who are terrified, have their lives ruined. What are you trying to achieve now?

[jno]

bobb, I can remember ye olden days (2019) when nobody had died by with or from Covid.

However, this didn't prove a good omen after all. It turns out viruses can spread and infect people. Who would have guessed.

[pixie374]

Andy, everyone who has had covid in the previous 4 months, recovered or not is included. I no longer believe any of the statistics.

[Mamyalynne]

I asked a similar question on a thread a couple of days ago Pixie , my comment got ragged.

I'll continue to do my best to live safely, and not as mentioned above 'in fear'.

[Stickybottle]

andy hughes
We have to assimilate it into our culture and get on with our lives, instead of being told to live in fear, and lose our basic freedoms.

I imagine fear to be being put to sleep knowing a doctor will shortly be putting me on a ventilator and wondering whether I was going to survive
Stories abound of those who regret not taking the vaccine when offered only to be left feeling terrified when the scenario I have mentioned has been played out