North Shropshie

[Gromit]

Please just post:
Tory win. Tory Hold, or Tory Loss.

We will see in the early morning.

[Gromit]

Labour’s strategy in this seat was to let the LibDems win.
// Labour say they are not putting any effort into fighting this seat. Despite coming second in 2019, they do not think they have any chance of winning, but know the LibDems do. So they are trying not to split the anti Government vote. //

[CrapAtCryptics]

Altogether a waste to vote for a party with no recent experience of Government who have less that 2% of the seats in Parliament so they wont change a single thing. As an aside any party who think the idea of *** to Brexit is a good campaigning slogan would never get my vote.

[Stickybottle]

ichkeria
Labour’s performance here is irrelevant.
For the reasons stated. This was a protest vote as by-elections often are. Almost certainly N Shropshire will go back to the Tories at the general election when the huge numbers of Tories voters who stayed away yesterday rouse themselves however reluctantly to do that they’ve always done.
The fact also is the Lib Dems cannot win a general election however much you think Labour cannot.

Nobody is expecting the Lib Dems to win the next election
But I guess somebody is sitting up and taking notice of them in view of their other recent by election wins
The current state of the two main parties is assisting a ripe time for others to make gains
Protest vote or not what happens if the electorate protest as much at the next election ?
The government by their actions this time last year have alienated their back benchers and no doubt the public
That is why they cannot impose any lockdown before Xmas because the public would not follow the rules in a tit for tat reprisal
Conditions are perfect right now for the third political party in this country to make headway

[drmorgans]

Nice to see Ed Davey doing his smug "go back to your constituency and prepare for government" guff. Deluded idiot. Almost as deluded as the Bozo-philes who think he'll still be round in a year. Or even Smarmy who thinks Labour have got a chance in the next election. The Tories under Bozo are woeful but will still win the next election (when it comes).

[Stickybottle]

naomi24
Where did the 23000 Tory votes go too I wonder ?

[drmorgans]

Stayed at home in front of the fire reading the Telegraph?

[ichkeria]

At general elections people vote for a government. They also vote tactically in many cases

Much as I admire the Lib Dems, who have huge presence in local government, they cannot be party of national government largely because of our voting system.
Not on their own.
And I’d repeat the point that crowing s out the drop in Labour’s vote here is completely and spectacularly missing the point.
If the “masters of the universe” party makes that error too, which I’m sure they will not, then that would be very foolish

[dannyk13]

Sticky //Where did the 23000 Tory votes go too I wonder ?//
A lot of them to the LIb Dem candidate and a lot due to Conservative voters staying at home.

[naomi24]

I hadn’t realised all 23,000 had disappeared. Crikey!

People will pick the bones over this and to no avail because at the next GE all will be remedied. The electorate should be careful what it wishes for.

[emmie]

the electorate are fickle beasts...

[drmorgans]

If the Tories continue with Bozo then the electorate will revert to type, N Shrops back to Con and Red Wall back to Lab. A mess.

[Stickybottle]

naomi24
The electorate should be careful what it wishes for.

Probably an end to Labour infighting and Tory arrogance
Just a guess though
What are the chances now of another hung parliament I wonder ?
The government too needs to be careful what it wishes for !

[royfromaus]

When did Jimf get a nationality transplant?

[emmie]

just what i wondered. Tony Blair best PM since Churchill, Pah

[New Judge]

//Where did the 23000 Tory votes go too I wonder ?//

Well, more than 18,000 fewer people voted so I imagine a large number of people who voted Tory last time were among them (as I would have been if I lived there).

[youngmafbog]

The lying liberal green Johnson has to go, surely his position is untenable now.

Bring in Rishi or Truss and lets get building the Tory Party back using Conservative root values.

[Peter Pedant]

well done boys - sensible comments ( for AB that is!) and no squabbling
BUT .... no one has mentioned Orpington
Where-pington I hear you ask, with a few "ware dat den"s

Orpington is silent. ( why? should it be talking ? I hear you quip)

Eric Lubbock (*) turned over the large Tory Majority in Orpington (*) in 1962 - to herald the never occurring Lib revival

Just no one has mentioned it

(*) Foo who , where etc.....

[davebro]

Orpington - isn't that a breed of chicken?

[davebro]

prob a few in N. Shropshire!

[saintpeter48]

Labour finishing third is just as much of a shock as the Tories losing, The Conservatives will still be in power come the GE because Labour are so very poor, are all in fighting and in Starmer have no chance with Mr Boring in charge!