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Jimmy Carr's Career Ending Routine?
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Jimmy Carr makes light of the holocaust -
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rightly condemned. and yet -
the show was released on christmas day. how come it's taken a month for anyone to notice?
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rightly condemned. and yet -
the show was released on christmas day. how come it's taken a month for anyone to notice?
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'Carr has often said he tries to make you laugh and then question yourself for laughing.'
That's the point I was making, rather than glibly replying with no thought, a view based on an often 'personal opinion' with no actual experience (ie watch the whole show and then pass comment, not simply say you don't like someone BUT have never watched/studied nay maybe even analysed..) then state your considered opinion based on fact not heresay. Don't get me started on university education.. the point is that Ricky and Jimmy have both put a lot of thought into what they say in their performances, what they say has been thought out, every word is weighed for its comedic effect. I will not comment further.
'Carr has often said he tries to make you laugh and then question yourself for laughing.'
That's the point I was making, rather than glibly replying with no thought, a view based on an often 'personal opinion' with no actual experience (ie watch the whole show and then pass comment, not simply say you don't like someone BUT have never watched/studied nay maybe even analysed..) then state your considered opinion based on fact not heresay. Don't get me started on university education.. the point is that Ricky and Jimmy have both put a lot of thought into what they say in their performances, what they say has been thought out, every word is weighed for its comedic effect. I will not comment further.
//I'd like him to see that actions have consequences - I can't see how any public money (BBC or C4) should be going his way for a very long time.//
//I'd be pleased if he didn't work again//
The cancel culture is a dangerous path to tread. Today something you don't like, tomorrow something you do like. Who decides?
His joke was in poor taste but if others want to listen, let them.
//I'd be pleased if he didn't work again//
The cancel culture is a dangerous path to tread. Today something you don't like, tomorrow something you do like. Who decides?
His joke was in poor taste but if others want to listen, let them.
naomi - // May I Just say that having loved ‘Afterlife’ and ‘Derek’ I’m half way through series 2 of ‘Extras’ - and loving that too. I really wish I could like ‘The Office’ but I just don’t. Hmmm … I suppose I could give it a third … or could be a fourth - try. //
You are in for a treat with Extras.
No spoiler, but the way it pans out, and the swipes it takes at fame and the media on the way is just fabulous.
I know you don;t like RG in The Office, but the skills he honed there in skating the line between comedy and pathos are brought to a fabulous conclusion by the end of Extras.
Do let me know what you think when you've seen it.
You are in for a treat with Extras.
No spoiler, but the way it pans out, and the swipes it takes at fame and the media on the way is just fabulous.
I know you don;t like RG in The Office, but the skills he honed there in skating the line between comedy and pathos are brought to a fabulous conclusion by the end of Extras.
Do let me know what you think when you've seen it.
Let me just change the words round a bit ...
"When people talk about the Holocaust, they often talk about the tragedy and horror of 90% of Gypsies in Europe being exterminated by the Nazis. But then they fail to mention six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine.
No one ever talks about that because no one wants to talk about the positives."
Do you think Carr would have survived the hail of protest from Jewish groups if he had said this?
"When people talk about the Holocaust, they often talk about the tragedy and horror of 90% of Gypsies in Europe being exterminated by the Nazis. But then they fail to mention six million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine.
No one ever talks about that because no one wants to talk about the positives."
Do you think Carr would have survived the hail of protest from Jewish groups if he had said this?
Roobaba - // 'Carr has often said he tries to make you laugh and then question yourself for laughing.' //
Indeed he has.
He says that what he wants is the instant laugh, followed by the gasp as you realise what you are laughing at, and he is extremely good at it.
If you create comedy that way, there are boundaries in place for some, and if there is a boundary then someone sometime is going to cross it.
Having watched a full show of JC, where he ends up actually telling people that he is going to 'up the ante' until he finds something they don;t laugh at, and then doing it, he is clearly a boundary-tester by intent, and he makes that very clear.
I am not going to condemn him, I haven't heard the joke delivered in context, and I try not to be offended on behalf of other people.
To save anyone the bother of asking if i would think it funny if I had relatives who perished in the Holocaust - I don't, so I can't answer.
But I have lived my adult life looking like Woody Allen until I lost my hair, and now I look like Loyd Grossman and Paul McKenna's love child, so believe me, i know what it is to have jokes made about me.
Interpretation of humour is personal - I like Jimmy Carr, Michael McIntyre makes my teeth itch.
Vive le difference!
Indeed he has.
He says that what he wants is the instant laugh, followed by the gasp as you realise what you are laughing at, and he is extremely good at it.
If you create comedy that way, there are boundaries in place for some, and if there is a boundary then someone sometime is going to cross it.
Having watched a full show of JC, where he ends up actually telling people that he is going to 'up the ante' until he finds something they don;t laugh at, and then doing it, he is clearly a boundary-tester by intent, and he makes that very clear.
I am not going to condemn him, I haven't heard the joke delivered in context, and I try not to be offended on behalf of other people.
To save anyone the bother of asking if i would think it funny if I had relatives who perished in the Holocaust - I don't, so I can't answer.
But I have lived my adult life looking like Woody Allen until I lost my hair, and now I look like Loyd Grossman and Paul McKenna's love child, so believe me, i know what it is to have jokes made about me.
Interpretation of humour is personal - I like Jimmy Carr, Michael McIntyre makes my teeth itch.
Vive le difference!
naomi - // AH, I’ve finished and I really enjoyed it, but I think Derek topped it - and Afterlife topped Derek. I do hope he’s going to do sone more. //
Thanks for letting me know, I thought it was a fantastic piece of work - you have to see all of it for the end to make sense.
Getting stars to play against type was wonderful too.
Just off the subject slightly - do you like The Inbetweeners?
There's a scene when Will throws a frisbee which hits a disabled girl, and he is chased by a gang of youths, and complaining that he can't get his Frisbee back.
Is Will hitting a disabled girl in the face with a Frisbee funny? Not on the slightest.
But Will running away and shouting "I've got a receipt!!" is comedy gold.
Thanks for letting me know, I thought it was a fantastic piece of work - you have to see all of it for the end to make sense.
Getting stars to play against type was wonderful too.
Just off the subject slightly - do you like The Inbetweeners?
There's a scene when Will throws a frisbee which hits a disabled girl, and he is chased by a gang of youths, and complaining that he can't get his Frisbee back.
Is Will hitting a disabled girl in the face with a Frisbee funny? Not on the slightest.
But Will running away and shouting "I've got a receipt!!" is comedy gold.
Dave, the joke wouldn't work because the Jews are not a blight on society like the modern gypsy is. (And I maintain the modern day gypsy is the image the audience had in their heads when they laughed)
What the gypsies have been up to often crops up in my local...never has anyone mentioned what the Jews have been up to.
What the gypsies have been up to often crops up in my local...never has anyone mentioned what the Jews have been up to.
roy - // I see andy has lost the flow of the thread again. //
Naomi and others mentioned Ricky Gervais, and Naomi mentioned The Office, Extras and Derek.
Why are you blaming me?
On second thoughts, don't bother answering, we both know why, and you are keen on derailing with your pointless nasty personal jibes, so I don't want to encourage you ...
Naomi and others mentioned Ricky Gervais, and Naomi mentioned The Office, Extras and Derek.
Why are you blaming me?
On second thoughts, don't bother answering, we both know why, and you are keen on derailing with your pointless nasty personal jibes, so I don't want to encourage you ...
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