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Ukraine (Again)
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How long can, or should, we stand aside while people are being slaughtered? Know all the reasons why we don't want to risk escalation, but if Putin opened extermination camps would that, at least, mean that we would do something?
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I think if we did need to we should. But we almost certainly don’t need to. Ukraine has a huge army of well trained, brave and dedicated men and women. Give them the tools and they will get on and do the job
15:25 Thu 07th Apr 2022
Ich - agreed za dety - - the unkrainian is presumably za dity ( seen on some of the cars evacuating - yeah sozza I read all these notices)
BUT..... it looks like unexploded ordnance ? presumably the one that exploded has za dety blown to smithereens
a bit - godless, even the eussians have leedol children
BUT..... it looks like unexploded ordnance ? presumably the one that exploded has za dety blown to smithereens
a bit - godless, even the eussians have leedol children
"he unkrainian is presumably za dity ( seen on some of the cars evacuating - yeah sozza I read all these notices)
BUT..... it looks like unexploded ordnance ? presumably the one that exploded has za dety blown to smithereens "
Well the language thing is irrelevant. No one speaks Ukrainian in Kramatorsk (apart from people like the lady's aunt who was "trying to forget I am Russian)
Someone said it was a fragment of an SS-21, but it doesn't look like it to me.
It's definitely a fragment of something though that has gone off bang ...
BUT..... it looks like unexploded ordnance ? presumably the one that exploded has za dety blown to smithereens "
Well the language thing is irrelevant. No one speaks Ukrainian in Kramatorsk (apart from people like the lady's aunt who was "trying to forget I am Russian)
Someone said it was a fragment of an SS-21, but it doesn't look like it to me.
It's definitely a fragment of something though that has gone off bang ...
I don't follow the point about NATO at all
The Czech Republic has just sent 10 tanks.
It did not need NATO approval to do that
Ditto all the other NATO countries that have sent stuff, notably Turkey. The UK of course, and indeed others.
NATO exists primarily as a defensive alliance: it's strength comes
from the protection it can afford its own members through collective security.
It was not designed as a weaponry dispenser for other nations.
The Czech Republic has just sent 10 tanks.
It did not need NATO approval to do that
Ditto all the other NATO countries that have sent stuff, notably Turkey. The UK of course, and indeed others.
NATO exists primarily as a defensive alliance: it's strength comes
from the protection it can afford its own members through collective security.
It was not designed as a weaponry dispenser for other nations.
Well, no one has intervened in Ukraine, for the reason that there is no treaty obligation to do so and everyone is worried about nuclear weapons, thus forver giving the lie to the notion that nuclear weapons "keep the peace" because when Biden and others talk of WWIII what they really mean is "nukes".
It's true that under the Budapest agreement, Russia was one of the signatories undertaking Ukraine's territorial integrity and to defend it agains nuclear attack. So if Putin lobbed a nuke at Ukraine he'd have to declare war on himself.
It's true that under the Budapest agreement, Russia was one of the signatories undertaking Ukraine's territorial integrity and to defend it agains nuclear attack. So if Putin lobbed a nuke at Ukraine he'd have to declare war on himself.
well Ich - didja read za dety yourself or see it on the internet?
anyway - after checking myself, ( this is AB you know)
I told the Beeb to get their arrisses into gear and get a Russian specialist to read it.
nothing at 1300 - and they carried it at 1800
So Itchy gets something on the Beeb - well done old fella !
They cut the automatic Russian denials ( carried at 1300) about firing the rocket and didnt even bother to comment: " everyone says: well they would wouldnt they?"
anyway - after checking myself, ( this is AB you know)
I told the Beeb to get their arrisses into gear and get a Russian specialist to read it.
nothing at 1300 - and they carried it at 1800
So Itchy gets something on the Beeb - well done old fella !
They cut the automatic Russian denials ( carried at 1300) about firing the rocket and didnt even bother to comment: " everyone says: well they would wouldnt they?"
Re how the war may end: I’m not sure there’s any longer a convenient exit strategy for Putin: the enormity of the crimes of his military plus the size of Ukraine’s mobilisation not to mention vengeful outrage suggests he won’t be able to withdraw from any claimed victory without facing a serious reckoning.
There are 110,000 now in Ukraine’s territorial defence with thousands more trying to sign up.
It’s the proverbial whirlwind
There are 110,000 now in Ukraine’s territorial defence with thousands more trying to sign up.
It’s the proverbial whirlwind
From the BBC report:
“ A remnant from a rocket is embedded in grass near the station. It has the Russian words "for children" written on its side. However the phrasing - "za detei" in Russian - suggests it was fired in support of children, rather than aimed at children.”
(!) I am not sure the BBC do irony.
Disappointing :-)
“ A remnant from a rocket is embedded in grass near the station. It has the Russian words "for children" written on its side. However the phrasing - "za detei" in Russian - suggests it was fired in support of children, rather than aimed at children.”
(!) I am not sure the BBC do irony.
Disappointing :-)
as a trained epigraphist ( cue horse laugh, Naomi)
the Russian for children is dety - Ukr: dity
but the rocket has a few more characters at the end
is that a case ending - for the children - governed by 3a
or possessive post fix - our children
1975 WHC Frend ( decd) wrote to Robert Anderson ( decd) and said "you were "lucky" you identified more hieroglyphs on the column than I did." ( therefore a difft meaning)
and the 'lucky' one was so outraged that they didnt speak evvuh again! Epigraphists are pretty funny lot as a group. One has been indicted for sellingbits of the bible he er dug up
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the Russian for children is dety - Ukr: dity
but the rocket has a few more characters at the end
is that a case ending - for the children - governed by 3a
or possessive post fix - our children
1975 WHC Frend ( decd) wrote to Robert Anderson ( decd) and said "you were "lucky" you identified more hieroglyphs on the column than I did." ( therefore a difft meaning)
and the 'lucky' one was so outraged that they didnt speak evvuh again! Epigraphists are pretty funny lot as a group. One has been indicted for sellingbits of the bible he er dug up
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Yes it means “for the children” - presumably as in “in revenge for” but apart from the fact that it’s wrong, they actually managed to kill children and indeed the implication is that they might even have wanted to kill children in revenge. Although of course it’s possible the missile was not fired deliberately at the station.
ickkeria 9.18. possible that the missile was not fired? deliberately. Ruddy hell mate didn't think I would hear such coming from you.
That's a bit like looking at every domestic building in Ukraine that's been flattened to the ground and saying it was an accident or a firing miss judgment.
Now that coming from Putin I expect all the time every time.
That's a bit like looking at every domestic building in Ukraine that's been flattened to the ground and saying it was an accident or a firing miss judgment.
Now that coming from Putin I expect all the time every time.
