Two Men Charged Over Manchester Airport...
News1 min ago
So Johnson Did Know About Pincher Allegations
87 Answers
….and so did Dominic Raab.
https:/
More lies from the Tory heads.
Why does Johnson only appoint sycophants and grovellers instead of people qualified for the job with no previous baggage or allegations?
When will all this end?
https:/
More lies from the Tory heads.
Why does Johnson only appoint sycophants and grovellers instead of people qualified for the job with no previous baggage or allegations?
When will all this end?
Answers
Best Answer
No best answer has yet been selected by FatticusInch. Once a best answer has been selected, it will be shown here.
For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.
// Pincher, MP for Tamworth, resigned as deputy chief whip on Thursday (30 June), saying he had drunk “far too much” and “embarrassed myself and other people” on a night out. //
His victims initially made no allegations. But his drunken behaviour at a Conservative Friends of Cyprus meeting was witnessed by many Conservative MPs, and the next day he resigned.
His victims did not bring this on him, and his career has been stalled by his own actions, not the people he groped.
// What should have happened is a prosecution //
A Conservative MP is not going to prosecute another Conservative MP for sexual assault. Never going to happen. The party managers are there to clean up such messes, not the police.
His victims initially made no allegations. But his drunken behaviour at a Conservative Friends of Cyprus meeting was witnessed by many Conservative MPs, and the next day he resigned.
His victims did not bring this on him, and his career has been stalled by his own actions, not the people he groped.
// What should have happened is a prosecution //
A Conservative MP is not going to prosecute another Conservative MP for sexual assault. Never going to happen. The party managers are there to clean up such messes, not the police.
Gromit,
//A Conservative MP is not going to prosecute another Conservative MP for sexual assault. Never going to happen. The party managers are there to clean up such messes, not the police.//
Becomes a problem when the guy in charge of welfare and cleaning up the mess is himself the one at the centre of the scandal, has previous for such behaviour and the PM still appointed him to such a roll because he’s one of his ‘bezzy mates’.
There’s errors of judgement and there’s cronyism. Not too difficult to work out which category this falls into.
//A Conservative MP is not going to prosecute another Conservative MP for sexual assault. Never going to happen. The party managers are there to clean up such messes, not the police.//
Becomes a problem when the guy in charge of welfare and cleaning up the mess is himself the one at the centre of the scandal, has previous for such behaviour and the PM still appointed him to such a roll because he’s one of his ‘bezzy mates’.
There’s errors of judgement and there’s cronyism. Not too difficult to work out which category this falls into.
….and now we get the actual truth from a former civil servant.
https:/
It’s becoming obvious that Number 10 is as suspected a cesspit of lies.
https:/
It’s becoming obvious that Number 10 is as suspected a cesspit of lies.
https:/
When will the Tory party get rid of Johnson?
Got to be imminent, surely?
When will the Tory party get rid of Johnson?
Got to be imminent, surely?
Raab will have some awkward questions to answer too.
From Sky News.
Pincher scandal 'overshadowing the bigger issues' - Tory backbencher
Tobias Ellwood, a senior Conservative backbench MP who is critical of Boris Johnson, says the government needs to "get ahead" on the Chris Pincher scandal and respond to the letter sent by Sir Simon McDonald.
He adds that the way the situation is being dealt with is leading to "the big issues" the country is facing being "overshadowed".
Sir Simon McDonald, a former permanent secretary at the Foreign Office, says Mr Johnson was told of an inquiry into Mr Pincher in 2019 where he was "not exonerated".
Mr Raab had minutes earlier said the prime minister had not been told.
From Sky News.
Pincher scandal 'overshadowing the bigger issues' - Tory backbencher
Tobias Ellwood, a senior Conservative backbench MP who is critical of Boris Johnson, says the government needs to "get ahead" on the Chris Pincher scandal and respond to the letter sent by Sir Simon McDonald.
He adds that the way the situation is being dealt with is leading to "the big issues" the country is facing being "overshadowed".
Sir Simon McDonald, a former permanent secretary at the Foreign Office, says Mr Johnson was told of an inquiry into Mr Pincher in 2019 where he was "not exonerated".
Mr Raab had minutes earlier said the prime minister had not been told.
When it comes to Johnson, I tend to agree with his former boss, Max Hastings ...
https:/
In June 2019, Hastings described Boris Johnson, the Conservative Party leadership candidate, as "unfit for national office, because it seems he cares for no interest save his own fame and gratification ... [his] premiership will almost certainly reveal a contempt for rules, precedent, order and stability ... "
...
He has continued along this line of argument throughout the Johnson premiership and he said that "the experiment in celebrity government to which the Conservative Party committed us has failed, and is seen by the world to have failed. The foremost task for a successor is to restore Britain's reputation as a serious country."
https:/
In June 2019, Hastings described Boris Johnson, the Conservative Party leadership candidate, as "unfit for national office, because it seems he cares for no interest save his own fame and gratification ... [his] premiership will almost certainly reveal a contempt for rules, precedent, order and stability ... "
...
He has continued along this line of argument throughout the Johnson premiership and he said that "the experiment in celebrity government to which the Conservative Party committed us has failed, and is seen by the world to have failed. The foremost task for a successor is to restore Britain's reputation as a serious country."
Where are all the Borstriches today, telling us what a marvellous job he’s doing for the country and if not him then who?
At present you could get the bloke from behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz to make a better fist of it than the clown we’ve got in Number 10.
As I keep saying, Johnson will not be a difficult act to follow.
As smattering of honesty with a dash of morality and a willingness to shoulder the blame for minor misdemeanours will endear one to the public and party alike.
At present you could get the bloke from behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz to make a better fist of it than the clown we’ve got in Number 10.
As I keep saying, Johnson will not be a difficult act to follow.
As smattering of honesty with a dash of morality and a willingness to shoulder the blame for minor misdemeanours will endear one to the public and party alike.
Togo was right though, wasn't he;
//Alternative headlines that might have been ... if only.
""Homophobic Johnson sacks gay Minister after malicious and unfounded accusations from unidentified source""
A spokesman from stonewall said, Blah, blah, blah, meehh.//
Gromit// malicious and unfounded accusations from unidentified source //
'Except that isn’t what happened.
He got very drunk and groped 2 men in the Carlton club in front of several witnesses. Fessed up when sobered up, and walked.'
Take a breath and think before answering, gromit. It will help you keep up.
//Alternative headlines that might have been ... if only.
""Homophobic Johnson sacks gay Minister after malicious and unfounded accusations from unidentified source""
A spokesman from stonewall said, Blah, blah, blah, meehh.//
Gromit// malicious and unfounded accusations from unidentified source //
'Except that isn’t what happened.
He got very drunk and groped 2 men in the Carlton club in front of several witnesses. Fessed up when sobered up, and walked.'
Take a breath and think before answering, gromit. It will help you keep up.
> Homophobic Johnson sacks gay Minister after malicious and unfounded accusations from unidentified source
The issue isn't that he didn't sack him, it's that he put him in that job in the first place. And it's not a problem that he's gay, it is a problem that he's got a history of being a predatory sex pest. And those accusations are not unfounded, they're proven and documented.
The issue isn't that he didn't sack him, it's that he put him in that job in the first place. And it's not a problem that he's gay, it is a problem that he's got a history of being a predatory sex pest. And those accusations are not unfounded, they're proven and documented.
