Is This What Brexiteers Wanted?

[diddlydo]

Queues at Dover:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-62263176

I wonder how many of those caught up in the queues voted for Brexit. We travelled to France dozens of times when we were in the EU and were never held up at French border control (which was often unmanned as it didn't need to check anything). I hopr Brexiteers are sent to the back of the queue.

[Peter Pedant]

SatProf: Brexit has damaged the economic interests in the UK ( such as the q at Douvres demonstrates

Togo - how dat den?

Message to Togo - Is it possible "to go" into ( haw haw haw sniggers up sleeve) how Brexit has benefited us? and be a little more wordy?
(useful words - oven ready chicken, free trade, Gt British Bill of Liberties which limits our freedoms, Lordships for Boris cronies - oh Lor')

[ToraToraTora]

satprof: "So far, Brexit has seriously damaged that future, IMHO, and looks to continue to do so." - how? you've been listening to the 5C too much.

[Peter Pedant]

no sooner than I type - how dat den?
TTT comes up with the immortal one liner
How dat den?

[pimplyteen]

Yep:0)

[Khandro]

satprof; How has Brexit damaged your grandchildren's future?

The one thing that HAS caused damage has been (China)man-made covid & no one escaped that, but don't worry they'll catch up.

[Gromit]

Khandro
// (China)man-made covid //

You really must stop watching nutjobs on YouTube.

[pimplyteen]

Yep^

[Peter Pedant]

so Boris' sins are nil
because of covid and Ukraine - - yeah right.
( god who says that?)

[davebro]

I love a good argument - anyone know where I can get one?

[satprof]

How have my grandchildren’s futures been compromised?

I suggest you look at the OBR’s figures for UK GDP for the last few and the future few years.

[ToraToraTora]

the GDP of the entire world has been effected by COVID, not related to brexit.

[JDavis]

Pre-Brexit UK passport holders were often waved through at busy times which took a matter of seconds. Now, because Dover is an EU border, each passport has to be fully scrutinised and stamped. Travel journalist, Simon Calder, says a check for a family of four is taking about a minute and a half compared to just a few seconds. Google Simon Calder BBC Dover traffic for link.

[Togo]

GDP growth has been higher in Britain than in the Eurozone since we left: in 2021 by 7.4% to 5.3%; and it is predicted by the IMF to be higher in 2022 (3.7% to 2.8%). If in 2023 it is lower (1.2% to 2.3%) than in the Eurozone—the one IMF forecast that Remainers are eagerly highlighting—this is because the Eurozone is belatedly catching up. Yet so far, the UK continues to outperform the EU: British GDP growth in the first quarter of 2022 was more than double that of the EU (0,75% to 0.27). Sources: International Monetary Fund [IMF], Office for National Statistics [ONS], eurostat

In the wider global context too, UK growth remained above average: in 2021, it was 7.4%, compared with the average in all advanced economies of 5.2%. The IMF forecasts that UK growth this year will be 3.7%, compared with the advanced economies average of 3.3%. Source: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2022/04/19/world-economic-outlook-april-2022

[Hymie]

It wasn’t what they wanted – but it was entirely predictable that that it what they would get.

[anneasquith]

No it’s not what they wanted…………… but it’s what they and remainers are left with. Happy Holidays . :-)

[Gromit]

UK dO growth in 2021 was 7.4%. That was growth on 2020 when our GDP fell -9.2%.

The EU is out performing us when we take a look 2019-22 and ignore the negative growth due to covid.

https://www.oecd.org/media/oecdorg/directorates/statisticsdirectorate/2022/qna-growth-500-05-22.png

[ToraToraTora]

stop spinning Gromit GDP was the highest in Europe in 2021.

[Togo]

Haha Ignoring covid data to skew the result? Lets all pretend that it never happened ... Give over.

How about the Lie that the cost of living has risen because of Brexit?

Food prices (April 2021-April 2022) rose 6.5% in the UK, and 9.2% in the Eurozone. Sources: Eurostat, ONS

Prices of all UK imports from the EU showed no hike in the months following our exit from the Single Market. Since 2021, they have indeed risen: from March 2021 to March 2022 they rose 13%. But in the Eurozone, import prices have risen by nearly twice as much over the same period—by 25%. Sources: ONS and Eurostat

Industrial producer prices are presently increasing in the EU at double the rate of the UK Sources: Eurostat, ONS

Clearly, price rises in the UK cannot be blamed on Brexit when prices in the EU are rising as fast and often faster.

[Ken4155]

Off topic, soz. Togo, you need to revisit Sat Punt.

[Gromit]

// stop spinning Gromit GDP was the highest in Europe in 2021. //

Wrong again. Ireland’s was 13.5%