Russia Murders 40-50 Ukrainian Pows

[ichkeria]

.. at Olenivka penal establishement in Donetsk.

All are believed to be prisoners taken after surrender at Azovstal in Mariupol.

Russia has been quick to blame Ukraine, which naturally targets its own people ...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-40-ukrainian-pows-killed-by-ukrainian-missile-strike-donetsk-prison-2022-07-29/

and released horrific footage of some of the bodies. Why they would do this who knows other than the usual savagery, but the castration video I mentioned below got them some bad publicity.

[naomi24]

Your headline is misleading. I thought they'd stood them up against a wall and shot them.

[ichkeria]

Why?
You don’t have to put someone against a wall to shoot them.
Missiles will do the trick

[ichkeria]

... to "murder" them

[naomi24]

I know - but that's how it comes across. Killed in an attack might have been better.

[ichkeria]

The BBC report mentions what had occurred to me when I saw the footage, namely that it looks like the place has been burned down, not hit with missiles.
I suppose it's possible that the entire video is a fake, of course

[ichkeria]

Deliberately killed = murder

If you fire a missile (if that is actually what happened, see above) into a building containing people you are murdering them.

[ichkeria]

Sorry, again I forgot the link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62344358

[naomi24]

The very fact that these were prisoners of war makes clarification important. Without the word strike or attack, I really thought they'd shot them. Aghast is the word!

[Peter Pedant]

Your headline is misleading. I thought they'd stood them up against a wall and shot them.

no he hasnt - they're dead ! durrr
as in not alive - they wanted them dead and they are.

I think Ich will be the first to insist that he isnt responsible for what you think....ter daaah !

frankly I am surprised they survived this long
and I suppose the commissars woke up one day and wondered the very same thing

I thought they would be lined up and shot when they surrendered....but of course, there were contemporaneous videos at that time.... and none now.

[ichkeria]

I would not rule out that the entire story is fake naomi.
The video I mentioned (far too horrific to post) looks odd, the scene staged almost.
I am 100% sure the place was not hit with HIMARS rockets as russia claims, but at the same time even for the russians it seems a bizarre thing to do. They do have form tho in wrongly claiming hits in Donetsk which have turned out to be (un)friendly fire, or mysterious fires.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah no I was gonna say no one was murdered is Auscwitz because no one was shot
yeah got it
it is a topsy turvy world we live in my masters

and that liddle gurl -stabbed - oh well not murdered then

normal day on AB boys and gurlz. jesus

[naomi24]

PP, People were shot at Auschwitz. I've seen the wall they were stood against - and none of it - not that or this thread warrants your stupid claptrap. Do us all a favour - have a modicum of respect and and put a sock in it. You're neither smart nor witty!

Ich, are there no reports coming from any reliable source in Ukraine?

[sandyRoe]

Isn't 'murder' a legal term? Outside of a courtroom someone may have been killed, it's inside it a judge and jury decide if that was murder.
Russian functionaries can kill as they like because they know they'll never face
Justice. Assassins who came to England, killers in Syria and Ukraine, all protected by the cloak of mother Russia.

[ichkeria]

Some already have been convicted and sentenced in Ukraine Sandy.
By May, Ukraine had logged 10,700 war crimes, and that figure has now shot up to over 22,000. And that doesn't include the undocumented ones.
I agree that of course most will go unpunished.. But just to record them is at least something.
Those prisoners being kept at Olenivka is in itself a war crime, as it was plainly in an area very close to the front line, whereas russia has had no hesitation in transporting up to 1 and a half million non combatants to "safety" in russia.

[Peter Pedant]

Isn't 'murder' a legal term?

like in " I could murder a steak!"
or "The journey to Dover was murder"

yes I DO believe you may be right

it is that kind of day

Quora has crezzy threads
https://www.quora.com/Is-Britain-behind-the-2022-Bucha-massacre

Did the Brits kill the men in Bucha ?

read on and enjoy

[ichkeria]

Looks like the Russians burned them alive

[Peter Pedant]

PBS -Ch 91 stalin terror - is worth a look at what they did to everyone in the thirties. ( and then fifties and then sixties)

Stalin started off as quite a nice guy with an eye for the gurlz.

Eldest son as a body in the wire of a German Camp - " My father is Josef Stalin, " and all the in-laws shot or in a gulag.

[fender62]

from what iv read they dont have to shoot them, cable tied and dumped in pits then filled over, russians do not follow the geneva convention, a wood chipper in a farmers field or over a pit.

[naomi24]

//Looks like the Russians burned them alive //

Where did that come from?

[ichkeria]

They torched the place by all accounts. Didn’t even fire missiles it seems. And the video footage seems to support that.
By their own admission, miraculously no Russian or DPR guards were eliminated in the “attack”
Interestingly, the Ukraine General Staff reported that they think the executions took place without the authority of the Kremlin.
Unbelievably, the russian embassy in the U.K. issued a tweet saying that Azovstal prisoners deserved to be executed - but by hanging rather than firing squad (!)
The Tweet was reported to Twitter and zapped, but many of us are trying to get Twitter to suspend their account.
The playwright Harold Pinter once ridiculously commented that the USA was a monster out of control.
I’m afraid that aptly sums up Russia now.