Well I Think That Just About Wins It For Truss.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-62385757
...She's bang on, the wee un keeps banging on about a referendum when the problems in Scotland are severe and numerous. You had your "once in a generation" vote in 2014, now get on with improving the lot of your people.

[Redhelen72]

Tora - basically you do not have a clue - that is shown by your Braveheart comment.
Why not stop commenting on another countries politics and concentrate on your own!

[New Judge]

//Because 3 of the last 5 PM’s were not appointed as the result of a GE.
Wouldn’t the next one prefer such an endorsement ASAP if they’ve supposedly got this ‘mandate from the British public’?//

Prime Ministers are not held solely following the result of a General Elections. The electorate does not vote for a Prime Minister; it votes to elect Members of Parliament. The Queen then invites whomsoever she believes can command a majority in the HoC to form a government. As such, Prime Ministers do not require a mandate from the British Public, only from The Queen.

[New Judge]

//Why not stop commenting on another countries politics and concentrate on your own!//

But Scotland is part of Tora's country's politics. His country is the United Kingdom (of which Scotland is a minor constituent). Anything that happens there, especially in terms of its constitution, affect all of the UK.

[FatticusInch]

New Judge,
// As such, Prime Ministers do not require a mandate from the British Public, only from The Queen//

I totally agree. Didn’t stop Johnson banging on about ‘mandate from the British people’ at every given opportunity prior to and even during his downfall though, did it?

[ToraToraTora]

redhelen: "Why not stop commenting on another countries politics and concentrate on your own! " - Scotland is part of my country.

[FatticusInch]

New Judge
//Why not stop commenting on another countries politics and concentrate on your own!//

/But Scotland is part of Tora's country's politics. His country is the United Kingdom (of which Scotland is a minor constituent). Anything that happens there, especially in terms of its constitution, affect all of the UK./

But ToraToraTora claimed earlier that the Tories, the current government, don’t need Scotland nor the Scots, so which is it?

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//redhelen: "Why not stop commenting on another countries politics and concentrate on your own! " - Scotland is part of my country.//

Lol, your stance proves anything but!

[Redhelen72]

Lol he wants it both ways - just like his hero Boris

[ToraToraTora]

Fatti: "But ToraToraTora claimed earlier that the Tories, the current government, don’t need Scotland nor the Scots, so which is it? " - stop spinning, we don't need the Scottish seats to win an election that does not mean we want Scotland to leave the UK. That's just you deliberately making assumptions based on an out of context statement.

[ToraToraTora]

redhelen: "Lol he wants it both ways - just like his hero Boris " - evidence please? I do not want Scotland to leave the UK I am very clear on that. Arithmetically we do not need Scottish seats to win an election. Please try and grasp that.

[FatticusInch]

PMSL, if you say so!

[THECORBYLOON]

Where's your evidence the FM faces time in gaol if a referendum were to be held?

[ToraToraTora]

anyone having ago at the famous 10?

[FatticusInch]

THECORBYLOON
//Where's your evidence the FM faces time in gaol if a referendum were to be held?//

If previous posts are an indicator it’s still in the ‘wet dream’ phase atm.

[New Judge]

//But ToraToraTora claimed earlier that the Tories, the current government, don’t need Scotland nor the Scots, so which is it?//

Whatever he said (and I don't know because I haven't read it) it doesn't alter the fact that Scotland is part of the United Kingdom. The UK is the only sovereign state involved here. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are countries, but not independent countries. The constitutional position of Scotland is under the control of the Westminster government and it may only achieve independence with the agreement of the UK government (unless it does so via a UDI).

[Old_Geezer]

If Truss is serious about dropping council employees salaries in poorer/cheaper areas and thus ensuring losing all the "red wall" votes (and others) and thus the next GE, one has to wonder if she's going to get the support for PM folk think she's got.

[FatticusInch]

New Judge
//So you’ll be happy to have a GE at the earliest opportunity too then?//

/Why should there be a GE at the earliest opportunity? One isn’t due for more than two years./

And yet, JRM advocated exactly that less than 6 months ago, in the event of there being a new Prime Minister.



What was I saying earlier about things said that may come back to haunt politicians?

[FatticusInch]

Anybody agree with JRM that there should be a GE at the earliest opportunity when a new PM is elected by the Party and not by the electorate?

[Old_Geezer]

I can see the reason some might desire it, but I don't believe it's necessary. The public votes for their representative not who gets the top job. The new PM can decide if a GE is useful to them.