Well I Think That Just About Wins It For Truss.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-62385757
...She's bang on, the wee un keeps banging on about a referendum when the problems in Scotland are severe and numerous. You had your "once in a generation" vote in 2014, now get on with improving the lot of your people.

[Ken4155]

^
BA right there!

[Hopkirk]

No no no

Now where have I heard that before?

[ToraToraTora]

cheers hoppy, great to see TGL kicking the sheet out of Labour as usual!

[FatticusInch]

Ichkeria
//That’s not what I meant of course. Having said that, she called NS an “attention seeker” - It’s an opinion of which there are many in politics. I can’t see it coming back to “haunt her” exactly//

We’ll see. Whilst not in the same sphere it may go down in the annals along with ‘peace in our time, prepare for government and I’ve got an oven-ready deal in order to get Brexit done’.

You can’t ignore other leaders and peers, you must have dialogue with them, especially amongst the United Kingdom, like it or not.
Ignoring just shows and proves ignorance.

[naomi24]

///They didn’t have to deal with the leaders devolved administrations (who are neither their peers nor equals) some of whom, instead of concentrating on emptying the bins, prefer to strut their stuff as “international” leaders.///

Before the advent of televised parliamentary sessions and the internet, they didn't have every word and action scrutinised and pulled to bits either.

[THECORBYLOON]

"nothing, but it will not be legal and will not be implementable. NS could find herself in jail."

What offence would she have committed?

[gulliver1]

Don't think Truss, or Sunak or any other conservative mp should be appointed to be the next PM by their own cronies . Let the whole of the UK decide. not Just party members Lets see the Tories booted out of Government for decades to come .

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//nothing, but it will not be legal and will not be implementable. NS could find herself in jail.//

But by the same edict as that of Truss couldn’t/shouldn’t she just ignore her and have a referendum anyway as suggested?
In a game of titt for tat(extra t to get past the auto sensor, hopefully) one often ends up looking a titt if one is the instigator.

[douglas9401]

"Known as the Great Leader (Suryong), he established a personality cult which dominates domestic politics in North Korea."

Aye, Kim Il-sung appears to have been an inspirational figure with his influence reaching far and wide.

[anneasquith]

N S may find herself in jail. ? Deary me.
L T has done the SNP a great favour . ;-).

[Redhelen72]

Oh dear Dora Dora Dora, it does not bode well for your Truss 's future in politics is she starts off being so disrespectful to fellow leaders.

[ToraToraTora]

fatti: ||ToraToraTora
//nothing, but it will not be legal and will not be implementable. NS could find herself in jail.//

But by the same edict as that of Truss couldn’t/shouldn’t she just ignore her and have a referendum anyway as suggested? || - well it's not a crime to ignore someone, it would be surely be treacherous to hold an illegal referendum. Especially as it would never be implemented or implementable the people would be angry ant being hoodwinked. Wee Burney could well find herself in trouble with her own executive.

[Untitled]

“ but it will not be legal and will not be implementable. NS could find herself in jail.”

it would never happen tora… can you imagine the consequences of arresting her? it would all but guarantee independence

an unsanctioned referendum might be illegal but it would be unstoppable…

[New Judge]

//Before the advent of televised parliamentary sessions and the internet, they didn't have every word and action scrutinised and pulled to bits either.//

These words are not being uttered in Parliament, naomi - it's closed down until the winter. Politicians love being on the telly, being quoted in newspapers and in internet reports. It's oxygen to them. Neither of them had to agree to the ridiculous TV debates; nor to being interviewed and quoted on (what the media incorrectly call) "The Hustings" day after day. Their fantasies and make believe should be presented only to the people who have a vote - the members of the Conservative Party. The rest of us should be left in peace and ignorance and just told the result next month.

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
fatti: ||ToraToraTora
//nothing, but it will not be legal and will not be implementable. NS could find herself in jail.//

/But by the same edict as that of Truss couldn’t/shouldn’t she just ignore her and have a referendum anyway as suggested? || - well it's not a crime to ignore someone, it would be surely be treacherous to hold an illegal referendum/

Lol, treacherous? The Tories know all about that don’t they? There’s been plenty since the VONC and beyond.
Plus if you’re going to debase someone’s argument by ignoring them, their views are of no consequence to you so how is it treacherous?
Treachery means ‘guilty of or displaying betrayal’.
If you don’t want Scotland as part of a United Kingdom then you can’t bandy about such accusations, can you?

[THECORBYLOON]

"it would be surely be treacherous to hold an illegal referendum."

Do you have anything to support the claim it would be, "treacherous"?

[douglas9401]

"The rest of us should be left in peace and ignorance and just told the result next month"

On the other hand at least we get a flavour of the giants who wander the corridors of power and look to control our lives leaving us in little doubt as to their suitability for high office.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "it would never happen tora… can you imagine the consequences of arresting her? it would all but guarantee independence " - well it didn't in Spain:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Catalonia_independence_leaders

[Untitled]

i think holding an illegal referendum on secession probably would be “treacherous” but it wouldn’t matter if it worked and i think it would… Sturgeon’s loyalty is not to the state she lives in, it is to the state she wants to exist… i am not sure anything can now be done to prevent scottish independence

[Untitled]

I don’t think Spain is an example we want to follow tora….