One In The Eye For The Echr

[Khandro]

No more 'human rights' to pull down statues and trash public spaces in the UK

https://order-order.com/2022/09/28/leftie-lawyers-fume-as-court-declares-colston-statue-toppling-an-act-of-violence/

A sensible decision, wouldn't you agree.?

[ToraToraTora]

Well it can't be surprise can it, I mean how can criminal damage be a human right? They should round them all up and bung in chokey.

[Spicerack]

And the police who stood and watched them.

[ToraToraTora]

Dunno what's happened to plod. Where are the proper coppers we used to have?

[TheChair]

How is this one in the eye for the ECHR? They were not involved and did not rule on it.

I like the way the article also claims that "leftie lawyers are throwing their toys out of the pram" and then goes on to quote one of them: "We are disappointed by the Court of Appeal Judgment".
That's a whole new meaning to the phrase "throwing their toys out of the pram".

[Spicerack]

Win one, lose one.
Although I must say Jesus in the people trafficking dinghy is, er, different.

https://www.bristolworld.com/news/st-mary-redcliffe-church-replaces-colston-stained-glass-window-with-picture-of-1963-civil-rights-bus-boycott-3855201

[Khandro]

//How is this one in the eye for the ECHR?//
Through them the Colston 4 were exonerated & got off Scott free

[Khandro]

'the group who pulled down the statue – were acquitted of criminal damage after citing their right to protest according to the ECHR'.

[Zacs-Master]

Any competent Judge would come to the same conclusion that Lord Burnett reached in that the prosecution was correct in its submission at the abuse hearing that the conduct in question fell outside the protection of the Convention.

The EHCR rulings/law has not been changed by this.

Guido Fawkes (presumably in an effort to make people like Khandro think some victory has been won writes:
'While this won’t affect the Colston Four verdict, it will have a meaningful impact on cases in the future. Vandals won’t have a human right to pull down statues and trash public spaces going forward'

The fact of the mater is that vandals never had the right to pull down statues and trash public spaces under EHCR rulings/law.

[Spicerack]

I thought they'd get away with it. The top cop there, for some reason, had an lgbttq lanyard around his neck.

[Peter Pedant]

even at the time - it was obvious criminal damage as people said ( at the time)
police wd be allowed to sit aside and watch if they feared for their own safety
( that was why there was such a lag at the Arena bombing)
.

[Gromit]

A weird report ever by Guido’s low standard.
The Colston Four case were never referred to the European Court. The Four had several defences, but their Human Rights was never one of them.
The Jury found in their favour 11-1.

So really, one in the eye for British justice.

[Blackstoun]

Spice rack : win one lose one
Perhaps it is the Sea of Galilee in the image?

[Gromit]

We have long had the right to protest.
Does the appeal Court judgement now make protesting about something, an illegal act ?

[Spicerack]

No, he's helping undocumented people across the channel. What you might call a people smuggler.
Must admit it's hard to tell what they're supposed to be. I read it in a better link.

[Khandro]

Zacs, //The fact of the mater is that vandals never had the right to pull down statues and trash public spaces under EHCR rulings/law.//

This is true, but their "left-wing" lawyers claimed that it was a "protest" & would have been prepared to take it to Strasbourg for a judgement, for which, as I know the ECHR; they would probably still be waiting.

//The Jury found in their favour 11-1.// also true, - but did you see the jury?

[Blackstoun]

The right to protest does not encompass the right to commit criminal
Damage, with impunity

[Spicerack]

Come on, gromit, you're better than that.
Do you think I could smash all the windows in the local Mosque, if we had one, go to court and say 'I was just protesting'?

[Gromit]

The Four in their defence denied damage had occurred. They said the statue is now worth more, and in a museum.
The jury agreed with them 11-1.

[Gromit]

The European Convention on Human Rights was enacted in the early 1950s after the atrocities in WWII. Winston Churchill was a driving force to it being written, and Britain signing up to it.

https://eachother.org.uk/churchills-fight-human-rights/

It pre-dates the EU and the European Court, and is nothing to do with either.

[FatticusInch]

OP headline link is more than a tad right-wind rabid but the correct decision has been made.

All for lawful and acceptable protest that doesn’t unduly inconvenience others, would like the full weight of the law to descend on those who cause wanton criminal damage.