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How Long Will Truss Last?
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In light of everything that’s happening, how much longer will the Parliamentary Party tolerate her?
https:/ /www.bb c.co.uk /news/u k-polit ics-632 51965
From that link:
A government that has barely begun is confronted by open questions about its imminent end.
That is the astonishing truth at Westminster, so spectacularly has Liz Truss cratered her authority with her own MPs.
In the short term, she seeks to salvage her premiership and her programme for government, or at least any parts of it that can command the confidence of her party and the financial markets.
Her critics say waiting until the end of the month to announce her plans is unsustainable.
Meanwhile Tory MPs speculate about her future and that of the chancellor.
Could Kwasi Kwarteng be the fall guy for the chaos, some ask.
Could he be sacked, or resign?
"The thing is, if she does that she removes a lightning rod, and you know what happens then? The lightning will hit her instead," one MP sceptical of that idea said.
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From that link:
One MP present said the attack came from education committee chair Robert Halfon, who said that, in a matter of days,
the new PM had wrecked a decade of efforts to extend the party's appeal to the blue-collar working-class by offering tax breaks for the rich and welfare cuts.
One Conservative MP told The
Independent that there was
"a robust exchange of views"
- code for a row inside the behind-closed-doors meeting.
Asked if Ms Truss had won over any of her critics, the MP replied: "Probably not"
And a former minister told The
Independent:
"It was horrific. She's not
going anywhere but she can't survive."
I’d say she’s got maybe a week to save her premiership, but absolutely no clue how she does it whilst presently losing all credibility?
Any Tory voters/faithful got an opinion on how long she stays or how she survives?
https:/
From that link:
A government that has barely begun is confronted by open questions about its imminent end.
That is the astonishing truth at Westminster, so spectacularly has Liz Truss cratered her authority with her own MPs.
In the short term, she seeks to salvage her premiership and her programme for government, or at least any parts of it that can command the confidence of her party and the financial markets.
Her critics say waiting until the end of the month to announce her plans is unsustainable.
Meanwhile Tory MPs speculate about her future and that of the chancellor.
Could Kwasi Kwarteng be the fall guy for the chaos, some ask.
Could he be sacked, or resign?
"The thing is, if she does that she removes a lightning rod, and you know what happens then? The lightning will hit her instead," one MP sceptical of that idea said.
https:/
https:/
From that link:
One MP present said the attack came from education committee chair Robert Halfon, who said that, in a matter of days,
the new PM had wrecked a decade of efforts to extend the party's appeal to the blue-collar working-class by offering tax breaks for the rich and welfare cuts.
One Conservative MP told The
Independent that there was
"a robust exchange of views"
- code for a row inside the behind-closed-doors meeting.
Asked if Ms Truss had won over any of her critics, the MP replied: "Probably not"
And a former minister told The
Independent:
"It was horrific. She's not
going anywhere but she can't survive."
I’d say she’s got maybe a week to save her premiership, but absolutely no clue how she does it whilst presently losing all credibility?
Any Tory voters/faithful got an opinion on how long she stays or how she survives?
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// Her problem is that the parliamentar y Tory party didn't want her; they wanted Sunak. // While that's true, I don't think that's her *main* problem. The problem is instead that she seemed instantly to forget this, and instead decided to appoint a cabinet of loyalists. That was already a serious miscalculati on. If as a PM your own Parliamentar y Party...
10:26 Fri 14th Oct 2022
/Not all Tory MPs are happy with Truss's corporation tax U-turn
Conservative MP and Liz Truss supporter Chris Loder has said he is "disappointed" at the prime minister's U-turn on corporation tax.
Earlier this afternoon, the PM announced she was reversing her plan to axe the hike in corporation tax this April.
Mr Loder said it had been a "difficult few days".
"We'll see now, won't we, over the coming days as to what that looks like," he told BBC Radio 4.
"I do hope that the prime minister can continue.
"But I get the feeling from the parliamentary party and a number of her supporters that is actually quite difficult at the moment."/
They’ll reflect and take stock over the weekend but it’s over, that press conference had all the hallmarks of a funeral service, she practically ran from that lectern without making eye contact with any of the gathered media.
Conservative MP and Liz Truss supporter Chris Loder has said he is "disappointed" at the prime minister's U-turn on corporation tax.
Earlier this afternoon, the PM announced she was reversing her plan to axe the hike in corporation tax this April.
Mr Loder said it had been a "difficult few days".
"We'll see now, won't we, over the coming days as to what that looks like," he told BBC Radio 4.
"I do hope that the prime minister can continue.
"But I get the feeling from the parliamentary party and a number of her supporters that is actually quite difficult at the moment."/
They’ll reflect and take stock over the weekend but it’s over, that press conference had all the hallmarks of a funeral service, she practically ran from that lectern without making eye contact with any of the gathered media.
Fatticusinch, my post at 17.22 clearly went right over your head so stick with your toys. Throw your scrabble tiles in the air, allow them to settle into the same few words from your limited vocabulary, rearrange the order as you always do - and leave the grown ups to chat. You’ve nothing new to say - ever.
Naomi; 18:04
"Fatticusinch, my post at 17.22 clearly went right over your head so stick with your toys. Throw your scrabble tiles in the air, allow them to settle into the same few words from your limited vocabulary, rearrange the order as you always do - and leave the grown ups to chat. You’ve nothing new to say - ever."
You seem to prefer being rude to clarifying what you actually mean to say. People like me are left wondering what the spat was about, and I for one would prefer to hear your point of view, not your opinion of Fatticusinch.
"Fatticusinch, my post at 17.22 clearly went right over your head so stick with your toys. Throw your scrabble tiles in the air, allow them to settle into the same few words from your limited vocabulary, rearrange the order as you always do - and leave the grown ups to chat. You’ve nothing new to say - ever."
You seem to prefer being rude to clarifying what you actually mean to say. People like me are left wondering what the spat was about, and I for one would prefer to hear your point of view, not your opinion of Fatticusinch.
That’s exactly it Weecalf, the Truss government followed in the same vein, there needed to be a seismic shift in the opposite direction and Tugendhat was the only credible option, literally for being the only one of the contestants to confirm Johnson was dishonest when asked.
The rest skirted around the question.
He gained instant credibility from the studio audience for it.
What did the Parliamentary Party do?
Maintained Continuity Johnson and chose a cabinet member, to their(and ultimately our) incalculable cost.
The rest skirted around the question.
He gained instant credibility from the studio audience for it.
What did the Parliamentary Party do?
Maintained Continuity Johnson and chose a cabinet member, to their(and ultimately our) incalculable cost.
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