Pensioners

[gulliver1]

Another Manifesto pledge broken by the Tories .
How many pensioners will vote Tory at the next G/E now that they have suspended the triple lock system on their state pensions. Typical Tory Trick The rich get rich and the pensioners get poorer.

[MissTerious]

I just realised that empty should be apply! I feel for clarion too and know why he's worried. Pension credits should not exist.

[maggiebee]

There are some who seem to think that the pension is a "benefit". I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I worked from age 18 to age 62 (with short breaks to have family and go to Uni) and feel I have earned my pension. In fact, I paid my "missed" contributions so I would have a full pension. Much good it has done me. I really feel for those who have to go cap in hand for pension credits. Outdated and humiliating.

[THECORBYLOON]

NAOMI, "Jim, I've no idea what a retcon is"

"Retcon" is "retroactive continuity" and is used in fiction to change what has already happened. A good example is the killing of Bobby Ewing being only a dream.

It's basically a rewriting of history.

[Peter Pedant]

who seem to think that the pension is a "benefit"
yeah like the gubmint does - hur hur hur

the government demands you apply for the pension and then tells you you have been granted the benefit.

no link but
Income Benefits
State Pension
Your state pension isn’t paid automatically – you must apply!

pensioner go crazy as they think it is a right - it is not.
any national insurance legislation is now couched in the language they use for tax bills
WE, Your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons of the United Kingdom in Parliament assembled, towards raising the necessary supplies to defray Your Majesty’s .... yikkety yakkety u

[gulliver1]

How many years do you have to contribute to qualify for a state pension at present .. It keeps changing.

[MargoTester]

You could try google

[gulliver1]

Jim 360 @ 09.34 for B/A.

[ladybirder]

LL SERPS does increase but not at the same rate as the SP. I know because I get it. Explained here:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-5032049/Why-parts-state-pension-rise-different-rates.html

Gulliver you'll probably find an answer to your question on my link.

[gulliver1]

MargoTester @ 15. 03. I Have googled At one time it was 44 years, then changed to 33 years then 30 years and now 35 years I just thought that a wise person like yourself could help.

[ladybirder]

You do know the Triple Lock is staying now?

[gulliver1]

L/B 15,12 No . Please tell me more.

[bhg481]

Gully - Liz Truss confirmed that she is committed to it. The problem might be that it depends how committed to Truss the Tories are.

[ladybirder]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11331729/Truss-makes-grovelling-apology-mini-Budget-shambles-PMQs.html

https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss-says-she-is-completely-committed-to-the-pensions-triple-lock-at-make-or-break-pmqs-12724415

Sorry can't get the Guardian it won't let me.

[MargoTester]

The reason I suggested google was that not knowing your personal circumstances it might be easier to look for yourself. Very flattered that you think I'm wise

[gulliver1]

L/B @ 15 .22 Many thanks.

[Hopkirk]

Apparently economists reckon that raising pensions doesn't fuel inflation in the way that raising wages does.

[gulliver1]

M/T @ 15.22 You are welcome .

[weecalf]

Why is it called triple lock .Well summit I was thinking I do not have a mortgage so I would be willing to give the triple lock to help people who must be terrified of what is happening to repayment on their homes .Some thing must be done . Oh aye everything went pear shaped when Liz made the mini budget not after all the uturns why aren’t these people dropping their mortgages rates again .

[bhg481]

It's probably a fair bet that most of the money given out to old-age pensioners very quickly gets spent; the same won't be true of tax breaks to wealthy people.

[gulliver1]

What happens when a person reaches retirement age and has never ever worked i/e because of disablement or lived off benefits all their working lives and have never contributed towards State Pension.