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Palace Racism
Ngozi Fulani was asked where she was originally from mmm, whats the problem there
it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
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it's not what or was considered a british christian name, i assume the palace get people from around the globe visiting, so why the big hoo haa.
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I think that the lady was asking where her family originated from. I think that is a genuine question, maybe not the time nor the place but it is hardly a major issue.
17:51 Wed 30th Nov 2022
Where are you from?
Valid answers are Sistah Space, the organisation I represent; Hackney, the area of London where I live; Britain, the country where I was born and raised; the West Indies, from where my parents, emigrated in the 1960s; West Africa, the region of Africa where my distant ancestors were unwillingly trafficked as slaves in the 19th century.
For goodness sake. Anyone who dresses as Ms Headley did/does is going to get asked where she is from at some point. Probably more than once so she why could she not have been gracious and explained she just likes fancy dress. For heaven's sake woman you were not abused and this is all a storm in an eggshell. Man/woman up. You are claiming to be an experienced person when dealing with people. Act like it.
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Lady-janine - // For goodness sake. Anyone who dresses as Ms Headley did/does is going to get asked where she is from at some point. Probably more than once so she why could she not have been gracious and explained she just likes fancy dress. //
Ms Hedley was asked where she came from, and she answered.
The fact that the person asking her patently did not believe her response, based on her dress and skin colour, is not her problem.
As for 'fancy dress' - Lady Hussey should be more than used to that, given some of the get-ups the royals appear in when in public, so if she is ignorant enough to assume that how someone chooses to dress is 'fancy dress' as you put it, then again, that is not Me Hedley's problem.
// For heaven's sake woman you were not abused and this is all a storm in an eggshell. Man/woman up. You are claiming to be an experienced person when dealing with people. Act like it. //
Being 'experienced' with people does not mean you have to smile politely and make nice when someone is interrogating you about your racial origins, because they don't like the truthful response you have given them.
In my view 'manning up' is exactly what Ms Hedley did. She experienced considerable rudeness, and called the rude person out on it.
I entirely agree that she has since taken the incident and magnified it and distorted it beyond what it was, but that neither mitigates or excuses Lady Hussey's behaviour.
And as I have said before, if Lady Hussey can acknowledge that her rudeness caused offence, and apologise for it - why can't you?
Ms Hedley was asked where she came from, and she answered.
The fact that the person asking her patently did not believe her response, based on her dress and skin colour, is not her problem.
As for 'fancy dress' - Lady Hussey should be more than used to that, given some of the get-ups the royals appear in when in public, so if she is ignorant enough to assume that how someone chooses to dress is 'fancy dress' as you put it, then again, that is not Me Hedley's problem.
// For heaven's sake woman you were not abused and this is all a storm in an eggshell. Man/woman up. You are claiming to be an experienced person when dealing with people. Act like it. //
Being 'experienced' with people does not mean you have to smile politely and make nice when someone is interrogating you about your racial origins, because they don't like the truthful response you have given them.
In my view 'manning up' is exactly what Ms Hedley did. She experienced considerable rudeness, and called the rude person out on it.
I entirely agree that she has since taken the incident and magnified it and distorted it beyond what it was, but that neither mitigates or excuses Lady Hussey's behaviour.
And as I have said before, if Lady Hussey can acknowledge that her rudeness caused offence, and apologise for it - why can't you?
Jim - //I have nothing to add to the thread, only to suggest that, for the sake of tradition, this thread should be closed (and then reopened) every other day from now on.//
And while it's closed, at least three other threads are created asking where this thread has gone and accusing the mods of duplicity.
And while it's closed, at least three other threads are created asking where this thread has gone and accusing the mods of duplicity.
Zacs - // I take it the thread was closed for a while?
I do hope it wasn't who I think it was as, if it was, it's the most blatant miss use of Mod power I've seen for some time on here. Maybe ever. If it wasn't who I suspect I apologise in advance. //
First of all, I doubt for a moment that anyone actually cares who you take it upon yourself to 'suspect' of closing the thread.
Moderators who abuse their position do not remain Moderators for very long.
That should alleviate your 'suspicions' for you.
I do hope it wasn't who I think it was as, if it was, it's the most blatant miss use of Mod power I've seen for some time on here. Maybe ever. If it wasn't who I suspect I apologise in advance. //
First of all, I doubt for a moment that anyone actually cares who you take it upon yourself to 'suspect' of closing the thread.
Moderators who abuse their position do not remain Moderators for very long.
That should alleviate your 'suspicions' for you.
davebro - //
//The fact that the person asking her patently did not believe her response, based on her dress and skin colour, //
I don't think it was a case of "not believing her", she was trying to express an interest in the person's ethnic/cultural origins. //
If you read the reported conversation, that is clearly not what was going on.
Saying "Where are you really from?" is not expressing an interest in someone's ethnic origins, it is asking them to correct the obvious lie that have just offered as their first answer to the question.
//The fact that the person asking her patently did not believe her response, based on her dress and skin colour, //
I don't think it was a case of "not believing her", she was trying to express an interest in the person's ethnic/cultural origins. //
If you read the reported conversation, that is clearly not what was going on.
Saying "Where are you really from?" is not expressing an interest in someone's ethnic origins, it is asking them to correct the obvious lie that have just offered as their first answer to the question.
Bazile - // I think the main protagonists on this thread should dress up as medieval knights , meet in a field and do battle . //
A novel idea, but if exchanging views with people who see things differently is a 'battle', then I am perfectly happy to 'battle' on here - saves me going out on a cold day.
A novel idea, but if exchanging views with people who see things differently is a 'battle', then I am perfectly happy to 'battle' on here - saves me going out on a cold day.
AH, //Saying "Where are you really from?" is not expressing an interest in someone's ethnic origins, it is asking them to correct the obvious lie that have just offered as their first answer to the question. //
Rubbish! There's no suggestion she thought Ngozi Fulani was lying. You've made that up. Given that Fulani had adopted a fake name that suggested she was African, and was wearing African clothing, Lady Hussey was trying to take an interest in her cultural background.
Rubbish! There's no suggestion she thought Ngozi Fulani was lying. You've made that up. Given that Fulani had adopted a fake name that suggested she was African, and was wearing African clothing, Lady Hussey was trying to take an interest in her cultural background.
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