Squeezing The Last Drop?

[douglas9401]

Is this really neccessary, an admin teenager tried nearly eighty years on?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64036465

[royfromaus]

Everyone equal, no exceptions.
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Aye she was just as culpable as Hitler, Himmler & Mengele...etc.

[jourdain2]

Thanks Douglas. A friend (French) was the son of a chap in the Resistance, lived about 30K away, and the day after the firing he was taken (aged 12) with the other men to start to clear up. His dad and the others all had to carry on with their day jobs. I learnt a lot from them.

[Untitled]

the prosecution involves a professional historian and alleged that she could have left her job without much risk…

ok.. i can believe that… is this really what she is being punished for? not leaving her job?

who could she have told? what could she have done?

[Untitled]

we should be a lot more concerned about the people who have successfully reinvented fascism for the 21st century than jumping on every last ancient and irrelevant vestige of the nazi regime!

[ZebuSanctuary]

// than jumping on every last ancient and irrelevant vestige of the nazi regime! //

Aiding and abetting in the death of over 10,000 people is hardly irrelevant.

[webbo3]

Yes, if in doubt join the Auschwitz memorial page on twitter.
@auschwitzMuseum

[Untitled]

sorry but her contribution to those deaths was irrelevant… not a single one of them would have lived if she hadn’t been there

[Untitled]

it seems far more important to me to try and stop the next one from happening than to keep patting ourselves on the back for prosecuting nobodies who will all soon be dead anyway…

[ZebuSanctuary]

// her contribution to those deaths was irrelevant //

Not even guilty by association then?

I think it is fair to say had her involvement been irrelevant;

1. There would have been no court case.
2. The German court would not have handed down a suspended
prison sentence.

No matter her age, providing she was deemed mentally fit to stand trial, it was the right course of action for her to answer the charges.

I will concede, age should have a bearing when punishing an offender. In this case, the judge made the right call !

[bednobs]

"it seems far more important to me to try and stop the next one from happening"
punishment is a vital part of that process though. While it might seem morally good to forgive and forget, there is a purpose to be served in punishment

[Zacs-Master]

'there is a purpose to be served in punishment'

Which, in this case, is?

[bednobs]

in this case i would say to deter other people from doing the same in the future (knowing you can be punished for wrongs the whole of your life) and giving a kind of retribution for wrongs commited

[Zacs-Master]

I would have thought a Luger pointed at her head if she refused might have been a reason she was compliant (but NOT complicit).

[bednobs]

maybe, but i wasn't there at the trial, so dont know what evidence was presented

[Zacs-Master]

Do you think her refusing to do the job she was assigned would have had a negative or a positive outcome?

[bednobs]

i have no idea zacs, but i did think that "just following orders" defence was found not to be good enough in nuremberg

[Zacs-Master]

She was a civilian not a member of the armed forces and I'm pretty sure that defence applied to uniformed officers, not secretarial staff.

[bednobs]

ok zacs

[Khandro]

ZebuSanctuary; Do you know anything at all about what life was like in Germany in the 1930s ? People were arrested & imprisoned for the uttering the slightest criticism of the Nazi regime, being reported on by neighbours,

This 18 year old - what we now call a teenager- was among men who were the dregs of humanity, raping & murdering on an industrial scale.

The reason this trial has taken place is that a great deal of money has been regularly poured in to the Simon Wiesenthal Centre from around the globe to pay lawyers & investigators to find anyone connected no matter how remote to the holocaust.

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"had her involvement been irrelevant;

1. There would have been no court case.
2. The German court would not have handed down a suspended
prison sentence. "

what evidence did they present to substantiate this?

i think the judgement is cruel and unfair... what exactly could she have done? as khandro says the men she worked for were mass murderers and rapists who had the support of the state... not a lot of tolerance for whistleblowers in nazi germany...