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MissTerious2 | 15:49 Thu 16th Mar 2023 | News
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I'm really interested in other people's views on this.

https://news.sky.com/story/hunt-defends-speed-of-his-childcare-budget-giveaway-as-biggest-transformation-in-my-lifetime-12835085

I'm probably very old fashioned with my views!
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Thank you. It was a struggle to raise them - no holidays for 5 years until we bought an ancient trailer tent and then we went all over Gt. Britain. They were almost the only children in their class who knew British geography and lots of history. The others just got on a plane and went to somewhere sunny with a pool. We swam in a stream on Exmoor etc..
18:27 Thu 16th Mar 2023
You ask for people’s views..
I went back to work when my youngest started school. I enjoyed their company and looked forward to school holidays with them.
However, it’s a totally and completely different world now and really shouldn’t be compared to those days.
My four grandchildren, 4,3,3 and 18months, have all been in nursery since they were about 12 months old, the three oldest are now in the nursery department attached to the primary school they will eventually attend. They’re all well rounded little people, have loving, caring parents, and grandparents who wished they lived nearer.
It wouldn’t be my choice, but I’m not their parent and it’s really non of my business. I doubt any of the children will ‘suffer’ from going to nursery, in fact if you look at the statistics nursery is considered a positive.
I don’t know any families of my children’s generation whose children don’t attend nursery, it’s the way it is these days, and it’s very easy to criticise if you’re not a young parent living in this world today.
I was a full time Mum. We got by and made the best of one wage coming in.
Then when my youngest started school I went to college and trained for an NVQ 3 in childcare. (Previously a bank cashier before my first maternity leave). I figured I could get a job in a school/nursery that would fit in with my main priority job of being a parent.
I have worked in numerous nurseries now for over 30 years and there is a huge difference in the standards of care and dedication levels of the staff! Parents need to check out the provision very carefully.
I can honestly say that children nowadays benefit enormously from being in a nursery from very early on— but not full time. They need to know their family. Some kiddies are lifted from their beds in the morning and transported into nursery to eat breakfast and don’t get home again until their bedtime. This is so sad when it is 5 days a week.
Lottie dear, please return BA to jourdain :) It is not a competition and we seem to be singing from the same sheet, I merely arrived late for choir practice!

I usually try to post with an understanding of "debate" but in this instance my thinking will not change. I understand that families have different goals and values from my time as a child. So be it.
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I think part of the reason my son and wife don't have children is that that they wouldn't use nurseries and they know they would get no family help with care. But quite a few of their friends are coping without using nurseries.

Yes life is different these days. I'm just glad I'm not a parent now.
And I've absolutely no wish or ability to be a grandmother. Mr T cares one way or the other!
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Cares not.
Choux, I for one am not even remotely trying to change anyone’s opinion about this, we all have our own ideas and thoughts, I’m just putting forward the world as it is today for those young parents whose children go to nursery.
I couldn’t have done it myself and feel very lucky I didn’t need to but I’d never criticise those who did/do, whatever their reasons.
(How’s MrC doing??)
I was a mother as well. A lot of people today don't understand being a housewife and mother in the 70s and 80s was hard work. Money was tight,as it was for my parents, but all my siblings grew up well adjusted people all with a strong work ethic as well.
Yes, Lottie, you’ve made your thoughts on being a grandparent very clear. Others disagree ;)
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Bednobs, none on here has been rude to anyone who thinks differently.
//Lets face it, the reason behind free childcare is basically to boost the economy not for the benefit of children or parents.//
You summed it up perfect MissT.

I sometimes get annoyed at the way some think its there entitlement to have free care and seem to blame goverment for not looking after there children, they seem to forget it wa sthere choice to have children.....and I also feel sorry for very little children being left with nurseries for days.... but as you say we need to get more parents back into work
I think it is a parental responsibility to look after their offspring, a responsibility considered before opting for parenthood. I've no issue with society helping out genuine need, but free childcare is rather extracting the urine. If one choses to have offspring why should the responsibility of their care be passed on to the public purse/taxes ? Especially just to give them a break and actually earn money while the public pays for it. If you can't budget for childcare look after them yourself as you should, and accept the lower family income in the meantime.
We don't need more parents back at work. We need more employment age folk to take up some of the job positions available whether they are 1 of 2 parents, or single.
Thanks Lottie. I really loved jourdain's post :)

Hi Vagus, sorry, I have been doing chores. We are doing ok, thanks, one day at a time. I didn't mean to imply that I felt was being persuaded by anyone. Tbh, a comparison between the 2 ranks here of anything between say 40-80 years is quite unfair. Nurseries and creches were unheard of in my childhood. Let me just say I am glad I was a child way back then. x
Yes but these are people who say they want to work and would but they need affordable childcare else its not worthwhile working. Theres also those who retire early or senior doctors who currently stop working or turn down much needed shifts at a young age because of pension limits and budget aims to tackle that ...
Which others are you thinking of?
bobbinwales \entitlement to have free care and seem to blame goverment for not looking after there children\

Why shouldn't the government look after them? After all children belong to the state!! They are the future of Britain aren't they??

https://www.herald.co.zw/in-uk-children-belong-to-the-state/
the thing |I despair of is the young kids unable to communicate with a stranger ( yeah stranger than me hur hur hur)
hey pal - from a 6 y o - still makes me cringe

I dont think this is a budget problem
kuipers URL is Zim ( babwe)
not exactly an economic paradise
KUIPERBELT, what is the link you posted meant to prove?
What a very strange article. Is it translation that makes it read so oddly...amongst other things?
morning lottie :) i didnt say anyone had been rude.

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