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and how exactly can they do that, when they cannot agree amongst themselves what a woman actually is?
and how exactly can they do that, when they cannot agree amongst themselves what a woman actually is?
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It will take more than a single term to deal with police attitudes to crimes against women alone. It will take generations to change the attitudes of some men, or for those who commit violent crimes against women to be either jailed or die of old age, it will take even longer for some cultures to embrace the concept that females are equal members of society so while it sounds good, it ain't gonna happen.
Yeah. So very often I write half a word, the tech suggests what I want so I click on it to use it. Sometimes I miss that the tech 'thinks it hilarious' to ignore that and leave it wrong. Tech 'behaviour' is around 80% of the excessive stress I experience. It probably accounts for most of my health issues.
That could almost be Tory aspirations. I also wonder how he plans to bring about what would be fantastic improvements. The problem is a lot of the violence against women, breakdown of society and corruption in the police must sit with the fact the people aren't brought up with any discipline or respect for others, loss of family units, the general lean towards a thoroughly chavvy lot and all supported by benefits coming out of their ears. That is Labour's way, not to mention opening borders to all and sundry because to try and stop it is apparently inhuman, bigoted and verging on Naziism.
Keir should swap sides because to bring about these changes needs a firm hand and tough measures, not a Labour trait at all.
Keir should swap sides because to bring about these changes needs a firm hand and tough measures, not a Labour trait at all.
Even allowing for the meaningless piffle that politicians are prone to spout when they want to encourage votes, this is in a class of its own.
You might as well say you are going to 'halve underage drinking', or 'halve illegal drug use', or 'halve people not signalling on roundabouts'.
How exactly is that going to be quantified?
And how, since each parliamentary term does not last a decade, is Mr Starmer going to see through his 'promise', unless he assumes winning more than one term, which is colossal arrogance of the first degree.
It's insulting to women for any politician to promise something so clearly unobtainable.
Reducing violence, any violence, depends on education, and changing attitudes, and given every successive government in the last forty years' inability to do anything with education but use it as a potential vote-winning tool - 'Parent Power anyone? - then his 'promise' is even more baseless than usual.
He should stick to 'promises' he can actually fulfill - and this is absoilutely not one of them, and never could be.
You might as well say you are going to 'halve underage drinking', or 'halve illegal drug use', or 'halve people not signalling on roundabouts'.
How exactly is that going to be quantified?
And how, since each parliamentary term does not last a decade, is Mr Starmer going to see through his 'promise', unless he assumes winning more than one term, which is colossal arrogance of the first degree.
It's insulting to women for any politician to promise something so clearly unobtainable.
Reducing violence, any violence, depends on education, and changing attitudes, and given every successive government in the last forty years' inability to do anything with education but use it as a potential vote-winning tool - 'Parent Power anyone? - then his 'promise' is even more baseless than usual.
He should stick to 'promises' he can actually fulfill - and this is absoilutely not one of them, and never could be.
'Crime statistics
Labour says its crime-cutting targets would be achieved within a decade, which would potentially require two terms in office.
The BBC has asked Labour for details of how it would measure progress towards its goals.
There are several official sources for crime rates, including recorded crime measured by the Home Office and a crime survey for England and Wales run by the Office of National Statistics.
The party says its definition of violence against women includes domestic abuse, rape, sexual violence,stalking and honour killings.
It says it if it wins power, it would work with experts to identify the "most effective way" to measure its pledge to halve these crimes, arguing current statistics do not adequately capture repeat abuse.
As well as reducing crime, it says it wants to raise confidence in every police force to its highest levels, and improve crime-solving rates.'
Labour says its crime-cutting targets would be achieved within a decade, which would potentially require two terms in office.
The BBC has asked Labour for details of how it would measure progress towards its goals.
There are several official sources for crime rates, including recorded crime measured by the Home Office and a crime survey for England and Wales run by the Office of National Statistics.
The party says its definition of violence against women includes domestic abuse, rape, sexual violence,stalking and honour killings.
It says it if it wins power, it would work with experts to identify the "most effective way" to measure its pledge to halve these crimes, arguing current statistics do not adequately capture repeat abuse.
As well as reducing crime, it says it wants to raise confidence in every police force to its highest levels, and improve crime-solving rates.'
Corby - // It says it if it wins power, it would work with experts to identify the "most effective way" to measure its pledge to halve these crimes, arguing current statistics do not adequately capture repeat abuse. //
Thanks for the expansion on the idea.
That does somewhat shift the goalposts I feel.
On the basis of the detail you have given, Labour are not going to 'halve violence against women' at all.
What they are offering is double the detection rate of such crimes, which is not the same thing at all.
Bringing perpetrators to justice is an admirable notion, but it does nothing to address the root causes of violence, which are cultural, not statistical.
Looking at addressing the causes would move towards actually stopping the violence before it occurs, which is entirely different from successfully punishing it after it has happened.
Something of a cart and horse interface going on here.
Not for the first time, a banner headline shouted in the media, promises something that it not possible to deliver.
A little early to be looking for votes by offering jam tomorrow, Keir, maybe wait until nearer the election, you might have your ideas thought through by then.
Thanks for the expansion on the idea.
That does somewhat shift the goalposts I feel.
On the basis of the detail you have given, Labour are not going to 'halve violence against women' at all.
What they are offering is double the detection rate of such crimes, which is not the same thing at all.
Bringing perpetrators to justice is an admirable notion, but it does nothing to address the root causes of violence, which are cultural, not statistical.
Looking at addressing the causes would move towards actually stopping the violence before it occurs, which is entirely different from successfully punishing it after it has happened.
Something of a cart and horse interface going on here.
Not for the first time, a banner headline shouted in the media, promises something that it not possible to deliver.
A little early to be looking for votes by offering jam tomorrow, Keir, maybe wait until nearer the election, you might have your ideas thought through by then.
//It says it if it wins power, it would work with experts to identify the "most effective way" to measure its pledge to halve these crimes, arguing current statistics do not adequately capture repeat abuse.//
So a bit of "creative accounting" then. The bean counters will be well employed, what with this and the preposterous "net zero" nonsense (which counts burning 7m tons of freshly felled timber annually as "sustainable") they will have lots to do. I imagine even now, Labour's advisors are working on ways to define how hard a woman has to be punched in the face before it counts as "violence".
So a bit of "creative accounting" then. The bean counters will be well employed, what with this and the preposterous "net zero" nonsense (which counts burning 7m tons of freshly felled timber annually as "sustainable") they will have lots to do. I imagine even now, Labour's advisors are working on ways to define how hard a woman has to be punched in the face before it counts as "violence".
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