Surely Any Pretense That This Is About Pay Is Now Out Of The Window....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-65037421

[bednobs]

do you mean any pretence it's NOT about pay?
if not, i dont understand your q

[ToraToraTora]

It's not about pay, this is a seditious attack on the country by hard left unions that think they can bring down the government. They have been given a more than generous offer.

[bednobs]

ok. Not sure i get your point, but that's likely to be the receiver rather than the broadcaster

[perseverer]

How does well below inflation qualify as more than generous?

[wolf63]

I think that it is still about pay and conditions.

The average person in the street has no interest in which party is in power, there are pluses and minuses with each party. They just want to be able to enjoy a decent standard of living whether that be from wages or benefits.

[Redhelen72]

How is it generous giving the current cost of living crisis?

[roadman]

thirty grand a year for glorified babysitting oh my goodness maybe i am in the wrong profession why fill a pot hole when you can fill a kids brain with maths

[Bazile]

West Midlands National Express bus drivers vote to accept 16.2% pay deal.

A good pay offer , will depend on where you're sitting

[roadman]

oh my goodness dont forget the holidays

[ichkeria]

Roadmap plainly never learned punctuation during his “babysitting”

Obviously they aren’t trying to bring the government down - don’t think that’s possible. But I think years of poor or no pay rises at all takes some of the gloss off the current offer.
That said I think it’s wrong for them to be striking at that time

[Redhelen72]

If you think teaching is glorified babysitting roadman then perhaps you should go and partake is some teacher helper days and see if that changes your mind.

[Hopkirk]

I wouldn't be a teacher.

[ToraToraTora]

roadman:"thirty grand a year for glorified babysitting oh my goodness maybe i am in the wrong profession why fill a pot hole when you can fill a kids brain with maths " - if only they did fill their heads with maths. They are too busy demonizing our history and brainwashing the kids to fill their heads with anything. A lot of kids today leave school with very little literacy and numeracy but are experts on how evil the British are/were.

[Zacs-Master]

Make it mandatory for anyone entering the teaching profession to have a minimum of 3 years business / work experience. They may then have some perspective on what real work is.

[New Judge]

//How does well below inflation qualify as more than generous?//

The idea that pay must match inflation is delusional. Increased pay leads to increased inflation which results in demands for er... increased pay.

Much (though not all) of the current inflation rate has come about from the pandemic, and where the government printed money to pay to people to sit at home for the best part of two years.

A good deal more has arisen because of successive governments refusal to secure the country's energy security and their manic obsession with their nonsensical, unnecessary and unachievable "net zero" target.

The bill for these two follies has now landed on the doormat and unfortunately some people will pay more of it than others.

[sandyRoe]

Are teachers the new left-wing vanguard? I'd not have thought so.

[Zacs-Master]

I paid £4.70 for a large sausage roll from a well known Cornish pasty concession on Saturday. £6.50 now for a pasty! I mean there’s trying to make some money back after the pandemic and there’s taking the P…..roverbial.

[davebro]

bet that taught you a lesson!

[Zacs-Master]

It did. I’ll never ‘shop’ there again. I didn’t even look at the price thinking it would be around £3 but when the ‘sales assistant’ asked me for £6.50 for a bottle of water and a bleedin sausage roll, I, being a Yorkshireman, nearly fainted!

[perseverer]

New Judge, I wasn't suggesting or expecting settlements to match inflation. I was querying the juxtaposition of 'well below inflation' and 'more than generous', but having seen TTT's latest post it's obvious what he thinks about teachers generally and perhaps he should try teaching sometime.