How it Works1 min ago
Grand National
The hooray-henry scum of the earth disrupting the Peoples Race.Should the mumsies and popsies of these aerosols demand their little poppets get a life or get a real job?
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Of course they can. Don't you watch the Disney animated films? They can even talk you know. Meehh. ......What do you think that wild horses do, or did, to survive and evolve? Like all Earths creatures they weighed up the odds of survival. The ones who were good at it are still here. Byyee.
17:42 Sat 15th Apr 2023
Atheist, if youre referring to 18.42 on Sunday, would like to add I now remember the young mans name - Eckhart. Everyone called him Eggy. He escaped back to Germany!
Are you being serious or inferring I went off race track!
I ask because my counsellor told me just a few weeks back that I should start writing!
Are you being serious or inferring I went off race track!
I ask because my counsellor told me just a few weeks back that I should start writing!
jno - // what I'm saying is that death is not the "planned and intended outcome". Badly wounded ones are put down, but those still in good shape go to the vet. //
You're really not helping your case here.
You are saying that 'death is not the planned and intended outcome', and you then go on to advise that the badly wounded ones are put down, and the less badly wounded ones are patched up to fight another day, which means that the entertainment of their death is simply postponed until another time.
By virtue of your own observation, bulls are hurt at least until they need veterinary attention, or are put put down, assuming they survive their time in the bullring long enough to be brought backstage and killed there.
And as you know, Portuguese bullfighting is nowhere near as popular, or as gory and fatal, as the Spanish version, so that removes it from a valid comparison with British horse racing, where absolutely no hard to the animals is intentional, or indeed, the purpose of what they do in the first place.
I think you should quit while you're behind.
You're really not helping your case here.
You are saying that 'death is not the planned and intended outcome', and you then go on to advise that the badly wounded ones are put down, and the less badly wounded ones are patched up to fight another day, which means that the entertainment of their death is simply postponed until another time.
By virtue of your own observation, bulls are hurt at least until they need veterinary attention, or are put put down, assuming they survive their time in the bullring long enough to be brought backstage and killed there.
And as you know, Portuguese bullfighting is nowhere near as popular, or as gory and fatal, as the Spanish version, so that removes it from a valid comparison with British horse racing, where absolutely no hard to the animals is intentional, or indeed, the purpose of what they do in the first place.
I think you should quit while you're behind.
You can’t compare bullfighting - even in Portugal (and I have seen it there and in Spain) - to horse racing. Bulls are goaded and tortured for the pleasure of the spectator. Horses race and more often than not come to no harm. I don’t like it much, but that’s what happens.
I agree with Barsel. I don’t like boxing either.
I agree with Barsel. I don’t like boxing either.
the less badly wounded ones are patched up to fight another day
andy, they are not.
They go home again and are put out to stud. So they're in much the same position as horses at the Grand National: they are not expected to die, and nobody is trying to kill them, but sometimes they're put down if badly injured.
andy, they are not.
They go home again and are put out to stud. So they're in much the same position as horses at the Grand National: they are not expected to die, and nobody is trying to kill them, but sometimes they're put down if badly injured.
jno - // I'm not defending it, naomi. just pointing out that killing bulls isn't always the aim, despite what some think. //
No matter how you try and spin it, you can't get away from the fact that the two sports are entirely different in their approach, and outcome.
Horse 'racing', bull 'fighting', - the clue is in the names.
No matter how you try and spin it, you can't get away from the fact that the two sports are entirely different in their approach, and outcome.
Horse 'racing', bull 'fighting', - the clue is in the names.
jno - // most animals survive, a few die at human hands. //
I have watched endless numbers of horses racing on television in my life, and seen maybe two or three who were unfortunate enough to fall, and have to be put down.
I was unfortunate enough to be taken to a Spanish bullfight when I was a child.
Six bulls fought, none of them lived - but then, their deaths were entirely the object of the exercise.
If you really think there are viable comparisons between those two scenarios, then I will have to end my input here.
I have watched endless numbers of horses racing on television in my life, and seen maybe two or three who were unfortunate enough to fall, and have to be put down.
I was unfortunate enough to be taken to a Spanish bullfight when I was a child.
Six bulls fought, none of them lived - but then, their deaths were entirely the object of the exercise.
If you really think there are viable comparisons between those two scenarios, then I will have to end my input here.
