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The "Special Relationship".......................
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..............myth continues with the visit of President Biden. There is, and never was, any "Special Relationship". It only exists in the minds of deluded people who think the UK is still a world power.
The myth started when Germany declared war on the USA following the attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese. This meant that the USA and the UK were now allies and as such, would make the joint effort against Germany and Japan (not forgetting Italy). It also meant the sharing of intelligence. Churchill was reluctant to let anyone know about Ultra and Bletchly Park, including the Americans. In the end, he was persuaded to let them in on it. That was the start of the, so-called, Special Relationship. There was no other reason for this "relationship", other than to defeat the Axis Forces. The only "relationship" the UK has to the USA is that they are both members of NATO.
There was never any kindred spirit towards the UK from the USA. In fact, in 1934, in the midst of world economic turmoil and depression, the USA formulated a plan that might involve a war between them and the British Empire. It was called War Plan Red and would have commenced with the invasion of Canada and British held territories in the Carribean.
Special Relationship my armpit! :o)
The myth started when Germany declared war on the USA following the attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese. This meant that the USA and the UK were now allies and as such, would make the joint effort against Germany and Japan (not forgetting Italy). It also meant the sharing of intelligence. Churchill was reluctant to let anyone know about Ultra and Bletchly Park, including the Americans. In the end, he was persuaded to let them in on it. That was the start of the, so-called, Special Relationship. There was no other reason for this "relationship", other than to defeat the Axis Forces. The only "relationship" the UK has to the USA is that they are both members of NATO.
There was never any kindred spirit towards the UK from the USA. In fact, in 1934, in the midst of world economic turmoil and depression, the USA formulated a plan that might involve a war between them and the British Empire. It was called War Plan Red and would have commenced with the invasion of Canada and British held territories in the Carribean.
Special Relationship my armpit! :o)
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The UK just happens to be in a good strategic location for the US to have bases close to Russia, like a giant albeit stationary aircraft-carrier if you will.
Singling out war plan red is a bit of a red herring as the US had 5 colour coded was plans with sub divisions, (rainbow plans) envisaging war scenarios with several other countries / combinations of countries.
‘There was never any kindred spirit towards the UK from the USA’
They lent us £3.7b in WW1 and £4.4b in 1945. OK, they were business deals but the US must have made a calculated decision that we were worth saving.
Singling out war plan red is a bit of a red herring as the US had 5 colour coded was plans with sub divisions, (rainbow plans) envisaging war scenarios with several other countries / combinations of countries.
‘There was never any kindred spirit towards the UK from the USA’
They lent us £3.7b in WW1 and £4.4b in 1945. OK, they were business deals but the US must have made a calculated decision that we were worth saving.
//So what language does the Americans speak?Is it French,German,Finnish?//
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Donald Trump thinks so, mind you, his mother was not only Scottish she was Hebridean, (father German). He loves Britain, the royal family & yet manages to be proud to be an American.
Sleepy Joe doesn't know what he is. It's been more than 165 years since the president's ancestors made their way across the Atlantic to America, but several generations later, Biden still boasts of his Irish blood, eschewing his Americanness in order to be fake Irish & hate the British.
Sleepy Joe doesn't know what he is. It's been more than 165 years since the president's ancestors made their way across the Atlantic to America, but several generations later, Biden still boasts of his Irish blood, eschewing his Americanness in order to be fake Irish & hate the British.
Churchill was reluctant to let anyone know about Ultra and Bletchly Park, including the Americans.
erm no -ish - it started BRUSA ( I will let Abers work out the words) - and there was even a cable in the Atlantic PURELY for code traffic. German code messages were RE-CODED and sent across for solution by the banks of bombes the American had constructed - and then sent back
This is the start of 5 nations treaty.
NATO was set up so America cd occupy Europe by treaty and any war would start in Europe and not in American or Canada. Europeans all said 'yeah OK sounds like a good deal'
and that was the status quo for 50y until Trump said he was strengthening NATO by pulling out ( in his Polisj speech). Makes no sense, well it was trump.
Bliar believing Bush and co-invading Iraq was very very popular there. Much more popular than here.
Boris' support of Ukraine ( well he is Armenian which is near) was thanked. The EU cdnt agree.
So I think there is one
but not the one Macmillan ( Supermac), said to the saintly J F Kennedy ( we will play Greece to your Rome).
turkey has done something remarkable today
Given back the Azovstal commanders to Ukraine
I have to say I thought the Russians wd shoot them
( they were high-achievers,so you want them dead quicko)
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erm no -ish - it started BRUSA ( I will let Abers work out the words) - and there was even a cable in the Atlantic PURELY for code traffic. German code messages were RE-CODED and sent across for solution by the banks of bombes the American had constructed - and then sent back
This is the start of 5 nations treaty.
NATO was set up so America cd occupy Europe by treaty and any war would start in Europe and not in American or Canada. Europeans all said 'yeah OK sounds like a good deal'
and that was the status quo for 50y until Trump said he was strengthening NATO by pulling out ( in his Polisj speech). Makes no sense, well it was trump.
Bliar believing Bush and co-invading Iraq was very very popular there. Much more popular than here.
Boris' support of Ukraine ( well he is Armenian which is near) was thanked. The EU cdnt agree.
So I think there is one
but not the one Macmillan ( Supermac), said to the saintly J F Kennedy ( we will play Greece to your Rome).
turkey has done something remarkable today
Given back the Azovstal commanders to Ukraine
I have to say I thought the Russians wd shoot them
( they were high-achievers,so you want them dead quicko)
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PP //and that was the status quo for 50y until Trump said he was strengthening NATO by pulling out ( in his Polisj speech). Makes no sense, well it was trump.//
Untrue! it was a malicious slur from Hillary Clinton
Clinton, May 8: Being a loose cannon is saying we should pull out of NATO, the strongest military alliance in the history of the world and something that we really need to modernize, but not abandon.
While Trump has gone so far as saying that, as president, he would consider pulling the U.S. out of NATO - IF IT IS NOT RESTRUCTURED, we’ve found no instance of him saying he wants to do so at this point. [2016] And the Clinton campaign hasn’t been able to point to an example of Trump saying that either.
In fact, it was during the interview with the Post, which initially brought attention to Trump’s feelings about NATO, that Trump said that he doesn’t want the U.S. to leave the alliance.
Factcheck:org
Untrue! it was a malicious slur from Hillary Clinton
Clinton, May 8: Being a loose cannon is saying we should pull out of NATO, the strongest military alliance in the history of the world and something that we really need to modernize, but not abandon.
While Trump has gone so far as saying that, as president, he would consider pulling the U.S. out of NATO - IF IT IS NOT RESTRUCTURED, we’ve found no instance of him saying he wants to do so at this point. [2016] And the Clinton campaign hasn’t been able to point to an example of Trump saying that either.
In fact, it was during the interview with the Post, which initially brought attention to Trump’s feelings about NATO, that Trump said that he doesn’t want the U.S. to leave the alliance.
Factcheck:org
Untrue! it was a malicious slur from Hillary Clinton
true it is ! so !
Listen to the polish speech ( Trump IN poland not speaking polish) - the POles stop cheering
It was my - je vous aii compris moment
when de Gaulle told the algerians he understood them when instead he was going to betraaaaaaaay ! them
true it is ! so !
Listen to the polish speech ( Trump IN poland not speaking polish) - the POles stop cheering
It was my - je vous aii compris moment
when de Gaulle told the algerians he understood them when instead he was going to betraaaaaaaay ! them
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