Lucy Letby Guilty

[LadyCG]

https://news.sky.com/story/nurse-lucy-letby-found-guilty-of-murdering-seven-babies-on-neonatal-unit-12919516

Found guilty of murdering seven babies.

RIP little ones.

[pastafreak]

I saw a headline referring to that ^^^...and hoped they could do it. She got her way unfortunately.
Is there no program here where victims/victim's families come face to face for closure?

[andy-hughes]

There are proposals for a change in the law to compel convicted felons to attend sentences. But as in all other matters, these things do not happen swiftly.

[anneasquith]

Once she is found guilty no decision should be left to her. Her attending court maybe would be slightly beneficial to the families, of the murdered babies and those left with life limiting condition.

[choux]

If you scroll down this article you will be able to view a 14-minute video of Mr Justice Goss passing his sentence on Letby. This is not for the faint hearted but nevertheless gives a greater understanding of Letby's premeditation and callousness towards the parents throughout her murderous actions.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12428929/Loose-Womens-Ruth-Langford-chokes-tears-discusses-killer-nurse-Lucy-Letby-ahead-sentenced-life-prison.html

[William51]

She is a callous careless monster who deserves to never see the light of day again.

[windywillow]

She'll certainly RIP (Rot in Prison).

[anneasquith]

I’m so sorry, I had to give up after 4 minutes . Unlike the family and friends of these wee babies.

[naomi24]

I can’t read much of it. Did she ever give any indication of what compelled her to it?

[naomi24]

^To ‘do’ it.

[choux]

None at all. Mr Justice Goss said in his summing up that it was not in his remit to determine what her motives were - nor could he. During the trial the Prosecution asked her why she cried when talking about herself but not when talking about the babies. Beggars belief.

[choux]

anne, I know what you mean. I saw it through and I am glad I did. It left me wondering how the parents have coped throughout the trial. I cannot imagine they will ever get closure.

[-SharonA-]

Very cosy prison she's going to..........all they want is a bar!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12428235/Lucy-Letby-jailed-prison-fellow-serial-killer-Joanna-Dennehy-Rose-West-Baby-Ps-mother-served-time-HMP-Low-Newton-inmates-sleep-pink-cells-chance-pet-baby-animals.html

[ladybirder]

If you go down to the Telegraph you can see it says she can be forced to appear in court today.

https://www.frontpages.com/the-daily-telegraph/

[naomi24]

She has to be quite mad.

[Barsel]

Don't you find it strange that her parents didn't know she was capable of doing this? Did she really pull the wool over everyones eyes?

[naomi24]

I don’t find it strange. Why would her parents know or even suspect?

[Peter Pedant]

If you go down to the Telegraph you can see it says she can be forced to appear in court today.

confused all day on forcing to attend
Home office minister R4 - you can force
Beebster: no you cant
H.O.min then keeps quiet

later

old LCJ ( lord chief justice) John THomas (LCJ) or someone said there were powers to force a prisoner ( so yes) but the prison officers may be unwilling to use it for fear of being sued ( so no) and no one had the power to tell the prison officers to bliddy well do what they were told

I thought: no wonder he got to be Ld Chief Justice

[choux]

Yes, Peter. Reasonable force v any force.

[bhg481]

I really don't see the point in making such people attend court for their sentencing. At the very least they can just completely ignore what's going on, so no point them being there. In the worst case they can completely disrupt the court and there's very little you can do about it; you can't lengthen the sentence. If the intention is to give some sort of satisfaction to the relatives of the victims it could seriously backfire.

[Peter Pedant]

well done chowks my girl - you heard the interview and understood it. ( reasonable v any). I just heard "yes you can" and "no you can't" at the same time. bit like AB

Here is a manual on restraint in the land of the free ( oc ourse)

https://benchbook.sog.unc.edu/sites/default/files/pdf/Restraining%20the%20Defendant%20During%20Trial.pdf.

and it is lampooned in Woody Allens film Bananas.

since even I can see it might be thought un-mimsy in this thread
https://www.youxtube.com/watch?v=8a3mk9sp0oE&t=241s

copy the URL and take out the 'x'