Hamas Attacks Israel......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67037895

Are they completely radio rental? Israel will respond x100.

[naomi24]

YMB 12.50.  I think you misunderstood me - at least I hope you did.  Naivity comes from acknowledging the plight of the Palestinians without comprehending the unthinkable outcome should they triumph.  That isn't 'evil'.  It's simply naive.

[ichkeria]

If you think that the actions of Hamas yesterday are somehow a "war" then you don't understand terrorism. Even the bloody Russians began their hybrid war/terrorist campaign last year by attacking military targets. 
Hamas yesterday skipped straight to the terrorism bit it would seem.

[Countrylover]

Ha ha, bloody Russians.  I'm married to one.I generally stay away from the Russian news on here.  I'm quite well informed about all things Russian.  

[ichkeria]

This isn't a news website so I'd imagine not

[Khandro]

 It's the fear of peace motivating Hamas,  the increasing tendency of Arab states to make peace agreements with Israel, as evidenced by the 2020 Abraham Accords, involving the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco. (with thanks to Donald Trump!)

'There has recently been strong speculation that Saudi Arabia is about to make its own agreement with Israel.

This is of great concern to all Palestinians, not just those in the West Bank, as it further reduces pressure on Israel to reach a settlement with them. Netanyahu has made clear in his public statements that he prioritises peace with Arab states over eventual peace with the Palestinians.'

Hamas doesn't want a 'settlement' it wants the complete annihilation of Israel.

[Countrylover]

When you live amongst a Russian refugee family with a remarkable history you tend to learn a lot.

[ichkeria]

Quite possibly Khandro.

I reckon Hamas could have been suckered into this by their Iranian sponsors 

[ichkeria]

Hamas published a video of a girl kidnapped from the peace festival - beaten and then set fire to while still alive. So this is what I meant by skipping straight to the terrorism bit

[naomi24]

They don't skip.  For them there is no mid-way point.

[ichkeria]

That is what I meant - you go straight there

[naomi24]

Yep.

[Togo]

The last 20 years.

1993: Oslo I, known as the Declaration of Principles, is signed by Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. It establishes a timetable for a Middle East peace process.

1995: Oslo II is signed, a second agreement in which the Palestine Liberation Organization recognizes the state of Israel and Israel allows Palestinians limited self-government in Gaza.

2000: President Bill Clinton, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat gather at the Camp David summit, a meeting intended to end hostilities. It ends without an agreement. 

Palestinians, frustrated over failures to create a Palestinian state, begin the second intifada in September, which lasts until February 2005. B'Tselem estimates more than 3,100 Palestinians and nearly 1,000 Israelis are killed.

2005: Israel withdraws from Gaza but retains control.

2007: Hamas, the militant Palestinian group, wins elections in Gaza.

2008: Israel launches a major military campaign against Hamas in Gaza after increased rocket fire from militants. The fighting ends on Jan. 18, 2009, with 1,440 Palestinians and 13 Israelis killed.

2012: Israeli forces kill Ahmed Jabari, a Hamas military chief, in a missile strike. The strike is part of an Israeli operation to eliminate weapons and militants in Gaza. Hamas says the killing has "opened the gates of hell

[Togo]

continued.

2014: Hamas kidnaps and kills three Israeli teens in the West Bank, igniting the Gaza War, in which rocket attacks and airstrikes kill 2,251 Palestinians and 73 Israelis. A senior Hamas leader praises the kidnapping and says it was intended to spark a new Palestinian uprising. The war lasts 50 days and ends with a truce. A U.N. report says both sides may have committed war crimes, which Israel and Hamas dispute.
2017: The Trump administration says it will move the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, in effect an official U.S. recognition of Israel's claim to the city. The embassy is relocated in 2018.
 

2018: Protests break out on the Gaza-Israeli border as the U.S. Embassy is relocated. Demonstrators throw explosives and rocks across barrier fences and are met with gunfire and tear gas. At least 58 Palestinians are killed, the Gaza health ministry says.

2021: Fighting erupts again as Israeli police raid the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on April 13, the first night of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, and disconnect speakers broadcasting prayers as Reuven Rivlin, the Israeli president, is speaking at the Western Wall, a site sacred to the Jewish people. Police then close a nearby plaza, a popular gathering place. Palestinians and Jews begin attacking one another, and Israeli police raid the mosque on May 7. The raid, on what's considered a holy Muslim site on one of the holiest nights of Ramadan, is viewed by Muslims as an insult. Hamas and other militants fire rockets into Israel from Gaza on May 10. Israel counterattacks with airstrikes. A ceasefire went into effect on May 21. It lasted until June 16, when Hamas sent incendiary balloons – helium balloons or kites with flammable devices attached – across the Gaza border into Israel. The devices caused 20 ground fires in fields near the border, according to the Israeli fire brigade. Hamas launched the devices after Israeli officials permitted ultranationalist demonstrators to march in Jerusalem. 
 

2022: In the spring and summer of 2022 Israel experienced a string of terrorist attacks that led it to take what it described as preemptive action, including airstrikes targeting senior commanders and weapons depots, against Iran-backed militant groups such as Islamic Jihad. At least 44 Palestinians, including 15 children, were killed in three days of violence in August 2022.
 

2023: In January too this year, Israel launched the first of two raids against the Jenin refugee camp in the West Bank, where it said Palestinian militants and activists were hiding out. The second raid, in July 2023, saw Israel send about 1,000 soldiers, backed by drone strikes, to Jenin to demolish what it characterized as a militant "command center."
October 2023: In the biggest offensive in years, dozens of gunmen from the Palestinian militant group Hamas infiltrate southern Israel in a stunning surprise attack that coincided with a major Jewish holiday. Overnight and into the morning, Hamas launched thousands of rockets into Israel. 

[Togo]

All the above is nought compared to what is coming. Israel has mustered 100,000 troops. Hamas has slaughterd up to 700 unarmed and inactive civilians since Saturday, possibly including abducted women and children! What follows will not make for pleasant news. A US Aircraft Carrier strike force is in the region and 500  miles North is the Black Sea with its own conflict.(One that could easily spill over if Russia feels that their own precarious position is improved by that happening). If Israel or the US have credible proof(to them) that Iran was the instigator and source of funding or logistic aid for this cowardly action then the conflict is going right to the heart of that twisted regime. Once again the world must hold it's breath along with it's nerve. Rest assured that if Hamas are allowed to get away with this then the next one will be worse.