If There Is Trouble At The Weekend In London Between Islam Extremists And Right Wing Extremists, Who Are The Police Going To Go For?

[dave50]

Answers on a postcard please.

 

[Untitled]

if hamas triumphs then i expect they will kill an awful lot of israeli civilians. possibly all of them if they are capable.

[naomi24]

Precisely, untitled, - and not only that.  Israel will cease to exist. It will be wiped off the face of the earth - and it will be replaced by an Islamic state which is the last thing the world needs right now (or at any other time).   

 

It's all very well having some idealistic notion of Hamas being replaced but who is going to force them to relinquish their authority - and more to the point, how are they going to do it?  

[Untitled]

Hamas took power by a coup 17 years ago and for much of that time have been financially supported by the israeli government. to remove hamas - end that financial support, stop giving them what they want, and sponsor fatah instead with a view to arranging a countercoup inside gaza and restoring it to the palestinian authority. 
 

easy? no

possible? yes. harder things have been achieved. 

[retrocop]

//if hamas triumphs then i expect they will kill an awful lot of israeli civilians. //

Gosh No surely. Could they be so cowardly and beastial. Who the hell killed 1000 civilians and took 200 plus hostages.? Surely not Hamas. Their leader totally refutes they killed civilians and were ordered to only attack and kill enlisted IDF.

[Untitled]

if israel with its current ruling party triumpha then gaza will be ethnically cleansed. that outcome is also intolerable. 

[naomi24]

//gaza will be ethnically cleansed. //

 

No it won't. 

 

[Untitled]

when two sides are bent on genocide the correct thing to do is not to pick the genocide you like the most... it is to do everything in your power to either prevent or halt genocide. it is the most evil thing humans can do and it must never be tolerated no matter who does it.

[Gramps82]

Perhaps Just Stop Oil can slow walk in front of the protestors and throw orange glitter of them, just as they do on an almost daily basis. Would be interesting to witness the outcome.

[retrocop]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/hamas-leader-interview-bbc-civilians-killed-israel-b1118640.html

[naomi24]

Israel isn't bent on genocide.  That's a product of your imagination, untitled.  

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // Either a very naive commissioner or  confident. If he has it wrong it looks like his head may roll from what the P.M. has said. //

I am absolutely certain he is not naive in the slightest - as I am you'd agree, you would not last as a serving officer, much less rise to his level, if naivity was part of your personal profile.

But I am also not at all sure he is confident, although that has to be the persona he adopts in advance of the weekend.

Given the utterly appalling actions and inactions of his predecessor, and the current tattered reputation of the Met, he has to present a vision of confident competent organisation to the public, and be keen to earn some sorely needed brownie points for the service.

I think it's a gamble, but in his position, he has no choice.

if things do go badly wrong, then he may well be the fall guy, but this is the position he as to take, and hope that his officers can win the day and maintain peace and order.

As I mentioned earlier, he could certainly do without 'Tommy Robinson's rent-a-thug mob coming in to make things worse, but hopefully the police will be able to maintain order, and keep things from escalating into a full-scale riot.

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "1939-45 - no, but i would definitely have objected to terror-bombing" - who did it first? they sowed the wind. Why do you lefties always side with the aggressors?

[Untitled]

i think it was wrong for the allies to deliberately target civilian non-military targets (which they did) even if they were not the aggressor.

[ToraToraTora]

11.11, why has that post not been removed ?

it says "excuse me" - Brutal!

[Untitled]

"Israel isn't bent on genocide. "

I disagree.

[ToraToraTora]

14:05, so we must fight with one arm tied behind, right oh!

[Untitled]

if you want to be the good guys rather than just another murderous empire then yes 

[naomi24]

Untitled, I know you disagree but you've no reason to.  When has Israel ever declared that its ambition is to exterminate Palestinians?  Never.

[Untitled]

incidentally the terror bombing during world war 2 was militarily unnecessary and made no significant contribution to allied victory

[ToraToraTora]

I'm surprised you accept we won untitled.