Nigel Farage Returns From The Jungle...

[Khandro]

....and looks & sounds better for it. Is he not the soundest extant politician amidst the dross in both government and opposition the UK is now suffering?

If not please say why. 

[ichkeria]

1.5 million for the chance to eat the genitalia of camels and pigs.
You can't fault his powers of negotiation .

Otherwise: how long have you got? 😂😂😂

[Old_Geezer]

That's a very personal question !

 

Besides, none of us are camels (as far as I am aware).

[ichkeria]

I'd be interested  to know in what respect(s) you the OP feel Mr Farage would be especially well equated to deal with eg immigration. He's made a career out of grandstanding from the periphery of UK politics without ever having actually to do anything. His hands are clean because he's never had to get them dirty 

[Khandro]

ichi. //I'd be interested  to know in what respect(s) you the OP feel Mr Farage would be especially well equated to deal with eg immigration.//

First off, get the hell out of the ECHR. Then deport all illegals to somewhere off shore for processing,  (as works for other counties which carry out such a policy)

But whatever he attempted to do, you would denigrate, that's for certain.

[Ellipsis]

I like Nigel in some ways, even some of his politics, but not all of them ...

5:00 and so the split that is coming with the centre right of politics, and that has been coming and looming for many many years, is now writ large

If say from left to right we have Green, Lib Dems, Labour, Conservatives and Reform UK, then what split that is coming with the centre right of politics is Nigel talking about ... i.e. what's going to split and what will the resulting pieces be?

[Khandro]

“Forecasts are difficult to make, particularly those about the future.”

— Samuel Goldwyn

[youngmafbog]

The problem with your list is it doesnt show how pary's, particularly the Conservatives at the moment, have been invaded by the Metropolitian elites. 

That is what he means, the likes of Shapps, Cameron, Hunt, Sunak etc.  They need to go along with many others.  They should form their own party but they wont of course becasue they wouldnt win.

[Ellipsis]

The problem with that is that the Tory Party is so broad a church that it wins elections, but then has loads of infighting. In the meantime, the electorate - that mostly didn't even vote Tory, let alone the variant of Tory - watch and the country suffers.

[Peter Pedant]

I dont think policians are extant, I think things are

'alive' might be good.

Farage returns to the Jungle - in Westminster !

OK he isnt an MP but hey AB is not noted for its accuracy

[Peter Pedant]

is that the Tory Party is so broad a church

noop - not now, commissioners went in a rooted out all anti Boris candidates before the last election

that is why the 2019 club ( of tory MPs or future ex-MPs) is so crazy

[sandyRoe]

If he ever does make it into parliament will he look back on his time in the jungle as the wilderness weeks?

[Peter Pedant]

I mean  craaaayy- zeeeee ( wibbly wobbly voice with Judge Judy bulging eyes) - schnozzle Durante eyes if you can do them

[Peter Pedant]

if he gets back to westminster

will he look on his time in the Jungle as halcyon days of good cheer and friendship more like!

[ichkeria]

There won't be a split because the only way to power in our system is through one of the two main parties. What has caused ructions in the Tory party is pie in the sky aspirations first for Brexit and now controlling immigration. 
Labour was immune to either because being out of power meant it didn't have to pursue a policy. Currently the Tories are at war with themselves because of a crackpot scheme which would never have worked. Now it seems that the PM has staked his government's reputation on getting maybe a single flight out to Rwanda. Regardless of anything else. 

[ichkeria]

James Cleverley claims most people support the Rwanda plan but a poll in June by You Gov was split 42-39 in favour with the highest percentage being those who strongly opposed it. Those who think it's a vote winner maybe need to think again  

[Peter Pedant]

yeah but no but

whenever asked the British people , say that the boat people are a bigger problem than say, Meghan Markle

[Ellipsis]

> That is what he means, the likes of Shapps, Cameron, Hunt, Sunak etc.  They need to go along with many others.  They should form their own party but they wont of course becasue they wouldnt win.

And for the exact same reasons, the right of the party won't form their own party either.  Instead, they snipe away at the centre.  Surely 90%+ of the entire country, Tories and everyone else, are sick of it ...

So what is this split that is coming with the centre right of politics ?  Bring it on, please - put up or shut up.

[Khandro]

Ellipsis //So what is this split that is coming with the centre right of politics ? //

The burgeoning, Reform UK - perhaps ?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/12/08/reform-uk-surging-support-cost-tories-35-seats-election/ 

[Ellipsis]

I think that's partly correct, Khandro - the split is with the electorate, especially the Tory electorate, more than with the Conservative Party itself.  Some will go towards Labour, others towards Reform UK, some will not vote or spoil their paper, and some will still doggedly vote for the Tories ...

[DTCwordfan]

shame he didn't go straight to Kigali or be pushed out of the plane over the Indian Ocean.