It Wasn't A Lie Anyway......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13304953/remainers-brexit-extra-350-nhs-ross-clark.html

It seems that the NHS is now getting double that extra per week anyway. Poor old remoaners the last pillar of their bogus claims crumbles.

[jno]

and nothing to do with Covid, of course.

[ToraToraTora]

ah so the pandemic can be brought in when it suits, right oh!

[naomi24]

It wasn't a pledge in the first place ... but we've been through that umpteen times.

[Old_Geezer]

Quite. But the erroneous claim still gets airtime. Well maybe not from now on then.

[douglas9401]

One mans eroneous claim is another mans shadiness with words.

[Old_Geezer]

Especially when they have proven to embarrass themselves in public.

[retrocop]

  This is the bit I l;ike. 

//Meanwhile, the EU’s mammoth budget has continued to soar – from £116billion in 2016 to £207billion in 2022. If Britain had remained a member and our contribution to the Brussels money pit had increased in line, our net payments would have increased from £267million a week in 2016 to £476million a week by 2023.

All this adds up to an unchallengeable fact. Instead of it being ‘a big fat lie’ that leaving the EU would save Britain £350 million a week and that we could then spend boost expenditure on the NHS, it’s turned out to be a big fat truth.//

                         

[New Judge]

"...and nothing to do with Covid, of course."

No, nothing at all:

"The King’s Fund says that in 2016/17, the Government spent £144.1billion on health and social care (at 2022/23 prices). In 2023/24, by contrast, that figure had mushroomed to £181billion. That is a real-terms increase of £36.9 billion a year – or £710million per week."

The report highlights the difference between NHS funding in 2016/17 and that in 2023/24 and quotes an addition of  £36.9bn pa (£710m per week). However, in 2020/21 and 2021/22 expenditure on the NHS was £204.4bn and £202.4bn repectively (with an additional £47bn and £40bn being attributed to Covid in those two years). So the increase in funding to the current "normal" level has nothing to do with Covid. 

Despite this huge increase in spending on the NHS, patient outcomes in almost every area are considerably worse. This is because it doesn't matter how much money is lavished on the NHS because lack of funds is not its problem. Its problem is that it basic model (free to allcomers at the point of treatment) is basically unsustainable and its organisation and management are shambolic (and that's being kind).

[johnny.5]

so ?

the nurses wages must have doubled in the same time period !!

what are they all moaning about ?

[New Judge]

"....what are they all moaning about ?"

If you're talking about nures, I imagine they are moaning because the organisation for which they work, which is costing every man, woman and child in the UK a little shy of £3,000 each per annum, is probably the most shambolic and badly run health service in the developed world. 

I've had the misfortune to have had some involvement with the NHS over the past few weeks (thankfully I was not the patient) and I wouldn't wish that experience on my worst enemy. To call it a "shambles" is giving it far too much credit and the problems I encountered were nothing to do with lack of funds. In fact, if those problems were addressed it would save the service a fortune.