Shots Fired At Trump Rally

[Dukedelorca]

On BBC News now.

[DTCwordfan]

I really hope that George Clooney or Michelle O'Bambam stands against Trump - they should wipe the floor with him.

[Deskdiary]

^^^it's because Trump is the 'wrong' type of politician Stableford. The left are intolerant of anything that they consider 'wrong', which is OK I guess, but what is not OK is that because they consider Trump 'wrong' they're happy for violence against him up to and including his assassination.

[Togo]

// It will enact far reaching changes that will affect many Americans...particularly women, children, minorities. It will limit both freedoms and democracy./

You have obviously studied this in depth. Could you give us a brief summary of these changes and their effects? 

//Interesting to see that hate speech and advocating the death of politicians is now tolerated on this site.?

Only the the death of "certain" politicians and open hatred of certain demographic communites by certain other factions. 

[pastafreak]

Stapleford...my family is there, and I fear for them and my great nieces and nephews future should Trump get into office. The man is a mentally deranged criminal whose only consideration is what's in it for him. If he destroys democracy but it puts him in the history books...he'd have done his job.

[pastafreak]

Go read up on it your self togo...I'm not doing your research for you.

[wolf63]

Can I clarify my position before you all decide that I am an evil person.

I have no desire to shoot or harm in any way anybody on this planet.

I admit to not liking Trump, but shooting anyone is wrong.  It was sad that someone at the rally was killed.  I think that neither Biden nor Trump are good candidates for President.

I'm just the from work and I'm tired so I will leave you to fight amongst yourselves.😐

[Peter Pedant]

er basically this, togo

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

Hamey's autobiography ( I wdnt bother to read the whole lot, it is a bit unrelenting AB posts) was the director of the FBI. and trump asked 'are you my man?'. Hamey said - "no mr president - I owe my allegiance to the carnstitootion of this great republic etc blah blah blah..." and Trump fired him the next day. Hamey heard darn da pub ( boozer)

Trump is planning to introduce a federal personal oath fealty system for all Fed employees - esp the ones he can fire at will ( lots and lots) - didnt a German Chancellor do that in the thirties. Yup. Right aaaarn.

anyway that is a start - read quickly, my posts have a habit of disappearing darn da jarn in 30s

[Peter Pedant]

wolf, o god stop taking yourself so seriously.

[DTCwordfan]

DeskDiary - oh how memories are short - what happened at the last election when Trump attempted to usurp American democracy and 'incitement to violence'. The man is egocentric - and we have plenty of examples of the consequences of such littered across history.

[Peter Pedant]

//Interesting to see that hate speech and advocating the death of politicians is now tolerated on this site.?

no - the interesting bit is how the site has gone all mimsy over advocating etc TODAY - and yet when Trump did the same about Hillary ( ref above -or - op.cit - ) 2020 no one blinked

not so much double standards as short memories

[Togo]

I have! Although I can't seem to find the references you make to limiting the freedoms of women, children and minorities. Is this perhaps another oblique take on the abortion of fit and healthy babies right up to imminent birth?  If so I would think that it is giving more than freedom to children. It is giving them a life.  If you have the relevant tracts from the requested manifesto do c & p them so that we can all agree with your insights. 

[Peter Pedant]

BA to DTC - who I am glad to see, has been Paying Attention

[New Judge]

So we’ve gone from this:

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/History/Question1873380.html

“i think that throwing things at such people [so-called Fascists] is a healthy thing to do and i wish it happened more often”

To this:

“…i am not ashamed to say that i was disappointed to hear this morning that donald trump was still alive.”

Quite a stretch from not condemning lobbing sand-filled socks at people with whom you disagree to expressing disappointment that somebody else with whom you disagree has survived a shooting.

You seem to be suffering what must be a very painful dichotomy. On the one hand you seem to be extremely concerned for the future of democracy in the United States. But on the other, you seem extremely disappointed that one of the candidates in a democratic election there (whose policies and opinions, coincidentally, are not to your liking) was not successfully gunned down and killed  in the street whilst campaigning as part of his election campaign.

He aims of “Project 2025” are not a secret known only to you and the Trump camp. They are well publicised here and, I would imagine, more so in the USA. If people there don’t like the idea of those aims they have a simple option – vote for Joe Biden (or whoever replaces him in the event he is declared unfit to stand). Democracy involves allowing the electorate to make their choice. It does not involve taking out candidates which are not to your liking.

[Peter Pedant]

well Togo - having insisted that Trump is a paragon of  liberty,  has identified a limit on women's rights. Well Done T ( add in the Fed oath of loyalty and the giving of Ukraine to Russia pencilled in for 7th Jan 2025

The supreme court of the greatest country in the world rolled back abortion rights, Togo, you cant deny that. - well OK you can, but that wd remind  me I am on AB

[Atheist]

NJ; What is Project 2025?

[Peter Pedant]

He aims of “Project 2025” are not a secret known only to you and the Trump camp. They are well publicised here and, I would imagine, more so in the USA.

nope. not to Togo they aint. - see above

[Togo]

ahh @18.47. It is not Trump who is proposing to do those things then   ... but Australian Jonathon Swan of the NY Times, warning that Trump will denact them if the Americans elect him. A sort of scare campaign by the left wing psycholigical nudge team. The over emotional and deficent of comprehension will of course swallow and regurgitate it.   

[pastafreak]

Your sarcasm is not going unnoticed Togo.

Plenty to read here...this is a bipartisan organisation. Of course, its views may not be everyone's 

https://www.americanprogress.org/series/project-2025-exposing-the-far-right-assault-on-america/

[Peter Pedant]

project 2025 - basically this

https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term

oh, and cant he declare  himself president for ever and there is no legal comeback? - supreme ct judgement on immunity from suit

[Peter Pedant]

but Australian Jonathon Swan of the NY Times, warning that Trump will denact them

yeah the funny authorship ( JS) is because ( as far as I know) Trump doesnt write opinion pieces for American newspapers - but as the mods tell me so often - -  I cd be wrong. ( look, no Latin!)