I Wondered When Labour Would Get Around To This.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-to-suspend-some-arms-sales-to-israel-foreign-secretary-announces-13208593

We know they are riddled with anti semites so hardy surprising they want to defend their "freedom fighter" buddies.

[naomi24]

I'm pleased to say that at last you've acknowledged why this is happening.  Put the blame where it lies.  Hamas wanted war.  They got it.

[Untitled]

would you describe israel's response as right and reasonable naomi?

[naomi24]

I don't know excactly what's going on and although I know you're highly susceptible to propaganda, neither do you.  I don't blame Israel one bit for retaliating.   They were left with no choice.  As far as I'm aware Hamas is still holding over one hundred innocent Israelis hostage.  Where is their goodwill in all of this?  Why aren't you shouting at them?

[ToraToraTora]

untitled: "..and without Israel's oppression October 7th would not have happened" - what oppression? they were running Gaza with Israels blessing.

[ToraToraTora]

12:57 ...this latest attrocity has made it clear that Hamas must be exterminated. Any collateral is at Hamas' door.

[douglas9401]

Nothing on the illegal settlers from our Righteous Right at all?

Seems to have been missed in all the repetition.

[naomi24]

So what's your opinion, douglas?   Of the war - not of the Righteous Right.  We haven't missed your repetition on that one.

[Peter Pedant]

God! the cover has finally has been finally removed from the elephant in the room ( hathi howdah (hāthī haudā, हाथी हौदा))

Gaza and occupied west bank for slower AB readers............(er is the elephant)

UK only sells pea shooters and armoured ladies knickers to Israel, anyway ( R4 this am, less than 1% os some budget)

and  everyone KNOWS that they are useless for flattening ( or even re-flattening) orphanages and hospitals. Sozza - "nests of future terrorists" - esp the children's hospitals

Forward Peace in Gaza !  

 

[Peter Pedant]

Righteous Right did someone say?

I am not sure if " flatten every building in Gaza" and puncture the inflatable boats and make them row back

can  be called righteous..... but hey I  cd be wrong

[Untitled]

"what oppression?"

shooting them when they protest 

blockade by land and sea

arbitrary arrest

torture and rape of prisoners 

denial of right to nationhood or citizenship

forcible separation of families 

abuse and violence by israeli authorities

[Peter Pedant]

the slashing and er rectification begins !

watch out untittled !

[douglas9401]

You go first naomi, what about Moshe and friends settling on already occupied lands, driving off existing residents?

[ToraToraTora]

13:25 but Gaza was autonomous?? if any of those things were happening in Gaza hamas was doing it.

[naomi24]

Awful, douglas.   Now you.

[Untitled]

Gaza was not fully autonomous toratoratora. it was blockaded and its residents were not allowed to leave, not allowed to claim citizenship or to create a citizenship of their own. IDF shot at peaceful protests against the blockade, conducted arbitrary arrests and propped up hamas with huge sums of money in order to prevent gaza from unifying with the west bank. that's not autonomy. 

[douglas9401]

The same, thanks.

[Peter Pedant]

Awful, douglas.   Now you.

can we stop playing pitta-pat on such a serious subject please ?

[Peter Pedant]

Jesus untittled you are sailing close to the wind. or in another voice: I have never read such a clutch of cynical antisemitic lies - deliberately misleading innocent and gullible ABers

[naomi24]

Peter Pedant, you're the only one here who's sailing close to the wind.  Stop goading.