Exploding Pagers......

[mushroom25]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t

many injured, and now deaths are being reported. Hezbollah are calling it a security breach, and are blaming Israel. if that is indeed the case, how was it possible?

[Peter Pedant]

Please stop posting in such fashion.

I think it is better if you left them stand - someone chortling over a dead 8 y old should be exhibited not censored.

[Untitled]

indeed peter. but gaza is an occupied territory of israel and is under israeli authority. much easier for the world to ignore than authorizing terror attacks on another country.

i really think this isn't going to look so "clever" in the future. one wonders why they didn't simply place trackers or microphones rather than explosives.

[Peter Pedant]

buying in from Israel..... untittled ( mornin' !) - we are there before you- they were bought in from Hungary.

God I wonder if the total volume of pagers sold in the world this month will plummet ? 

[Untitled]

it's not just pagers. israel's willingness to tamper with electronics in order to conduct terror attacks sets a truly horrifying precedent. there is no reason you couldn't do this with a phone.

israel's wars are often used by the Americans to test weapons and tactics for future conflicts. i suspect we will be seeing something like this again very soon.

[naomi24]

//According to today's news, Israel has admitted responsibility//

 

According to the BBC this morning Israel has declined to comment.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz04m913m49o

[sunny-dave]

Yes - it is very sad that a child died - but Hezbollah murdered 11 children in Israel with a rocket a few weeks ago. So tell me again who is killing indiscriminately and who is responding with a precise defense operation?

The "Lebanese people" using pagers are Hezbollah terrorists. Ordinary Lebanese people have mobile phones not pagers.

[Peter Pedant]

 israel's willingness to tamper with electronics in order to conduct terror attacks sets a truly horrifying precedent.

British were doing it in Ireland

I am trying to think of an example in WW2 - yes R V Jones bending the beams

https://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/mannerisms/yarns/the-battle-of-the-beams-2016-10/

and in WW1 - the Lorentz machine ( no not THAT Lorentz, TTT will go crazy !). Germans noticed that straight wires gave off EM waves and so.... it should be possible to deetect them and listen to the British blaarting ( mein Gott ! dont they blaaart ( nicht blaarten-sie)

so a long straight underground tunnel the Germans dug a counter mine and found with a Lorentz machine, they cd listen to the Brits

Good luck tomorrow - was overheard and was used to warn the Germans there wd be an attack - which they successfully defended - - oops

 

[Peter Pedant]

Pagers all going pop at the same time

reminds me of the use of mines in Messine 1917 - Commander who was a sapper had a company of sappers who mined a whole ridge

and blew it up in one go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mines_in_the_Battle_of_Messines_(1917)

and then very much like yesterday saiid " what do we do now?"

( Brits cdnt get it to fit into any coherent strategy)

[Peter Pedant]

Asking for a friend because I really don't give a rodents rectum.

doesnt sound as if you would be a good messenger

I can imagine the  message back " I asked the heaving mass of Abers and they said a lot of people had died. Yeah"

[douglas9401]

'Heaving mass of ABers' triggers disturbing images in the mind.

[Peter Pedant]

I go for iconic images ( usually with a prurient or smutty overtone)

[naomi24]

I can't see how Israel can be responsible for this.   I can't imagine the logistics of organising such an attack.  How could they do it?  Perhaps it's been perpetrated by one of the Islamic groups as propaganda.  I wouldn't put anything past them including killing their own people for the 'cause'.

[Peter Pedant]

I can't imagine the logistics of organising such an attack.  How could they do it? 

this is an argument straight out  of Intelligent Design isnt it? how could Evolution  have made an elephant so it must be Intelligent Design ( = God)

unexpected.

as for electronic interference as old as Methuselah - I note from the internet

From German archives it is learned that the Germans tapped the British telephone lines and sometimes, by foolish talk got aware of coming attacks. They also had listening posts as did the British. 

and it all depends on loose talk - see enigma solution

[douglas9401]

Interfering with the ability to breed results in fewer recruits further down the line, I doubt this is part of their master plan, unless the 'health authorities' have a secret repository of frozen sperm.

[jackthehat]

I imagine the R&D department of Mossad has innumerable schemes such as this all ready to go.

It is the opportunity to deploy them which will present the most cunning of brains with head-scratching quandry.

Not only have they struck a physical blow against Hezbollah, but now the chiefs of that terrorist organisation will spend valuable time second-guessing their minions, their communication-strategies, their supply-routes, etc. 

I wonder who will blink first?

[Untitled]

"So tell me again who is killing indiscriminately and who is responding with a precise defense operation?"

they are both killing indiscriminately. the UK government simply sides with one group of terrorists over another. not a policy that has done well in the past and not a wise one now.

[youngmafbog]

I have in my hand a piece of paper.....

[Peter Pedant]

'noon untittled

"So tell me again who is killing indiscriminately and who is responding with a precise defense operation?"

I had noticed with the standard AB statement

"and one side kills tortures and detains without trial or any respite whilst tormenting relatives, bombs buildings, hospital and orphanages in an orgy of killing, slaughtering small children whilst onlooker laugh...."

and I wonder; which side are they referring to ?

Israel's willingness to tamper with electronics in order to conduct terror attacks sets a truly horrifying precedent.

I was trying to dig out the germans listening to the Brits ( Lorentz) in the Great War in the electronic war.... and I  am not the only person who knows this, it is famous

boisseux incident - British take a forward German trench and find transcripts of British messages - ooer Colonel !

https://www.gchq.gov.uk/information/communications-security-in-1916-the-la-boisselle-find

boiselle I mean

[davebro3]

PP - I know how much you like to parade your (supposed) erudition but really it's falling on deaf ears. Carry on if you think it worthwhile.