Litter bins

[raysparx]

What a bloody crazy country we live in I have just heard on the news that a man was fined �50 for putting junk mail in a litter bin,what do you lot suggest we do with it?, I wait for some with return envelopes and put the all the trash i have and send it on ,if happen to be eating an orange or apple at the time they get that as well am I going crackers, or is it the rest of the world?

[jno]

first I ever heard of a problem putting litter in a litter bin... anyway, stick it in an envelope and return it without a stamp, so they have to pay to see what it is.

[natalie_1982]

Papers blow things out of all proportions. I work for local govt, and people are fined for fly tipping i.e. dumping their rubbish elsewhere be that a ditch, a public bin or whatever.

I saw this story briefly on the TV this morning, but the first thing I thought was "Did this guy really dump one letter in a public bin, or had he been dumping bags of his doemstic refuse there for months and they caught him?".

I'd be surprised if they fined a guy �50 for putting one envelope in a dustbin in a town centre for example, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had been dumping bags of household rubbish at a leisure centre or something, and the press and omitted a few details.

[Loosehead]

He was fined for putting domestic waste in a public bin. Yes a bit petty but it wasn't for puting general rubbish in a bin. Essentially it's designed to stop people going around filling up public bins with domestic waste.

[sukkie]

I just take all the junk mail and address to "Return to Sender" and put in the mail box! Let them that posts it to me deal with it!

[valsuey]

I recycle all my junk mail.Make sure I take off any name or address first though.Don't want someone applying for something in my name!

[Lonnie]

I read this story, and to follow on from natalie, apparently, this bin was outside his house, and the council said that they'd had an ongoing problem with domestic rubbish being put in it, so I reckon they must have had a special watch on it.

[raysparx]

Hi Natalie & Lonnie, they didn't mention on news that the bin was outside his house,and the problem with litter,if that is the case he should have his head stuck in the bin.cheers Ray

[WaldoMcFroog]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/479249 0.stm

Council has decided not to fine him, after all that.

Loosehead, I'm shocked to see you hadn't called this 'PC gone mad'. Are you ill today?

[Grunty]

According to the council, it was a substantial bag of rubbish and the junk mail was what allowed them to trace him. They couldn't have had far to look because the bin was right outside his house. I would guess that he was upsetting the predictions and making the council spend more of our money by emptying the bin more often.

Not for the same reason, but no junk mail leaves my house with my name on it before I have shredded it.

[Drisgirl]

The bin was a bog standard 2' x2' bin on a lamppost.He got his mail from the postie and binned it on the way past.

Now nat and the rest - fly-tipping is different - we're talking fridges and old suites - not a couple of letters..

[stoo_pid]

It wasn't just a couple of letters. The fact is, a significant amount of domestic waste (including food, which can attract rats) was dumped in the bin, practically filling it up in one go. The area the bin is located suffers from heavy littering. The council believed it was this bloke and as has already been said, they traced him by his junk mail.

However, they could not prove the domestic waste was his so they did not proceed with the fine.

Click here for a bit more info.

The fine was never about putting junk mail in the bin, that was just the easy, attention-grabbing (but factually incorrect) headline. Deja vous anyone..?

[lady_p_gold]

As soon as I read it I thought 'there will be more to this' .... it made good headlines that's all .

[Drisgirl]

Its hardly fly tipping.If its the case - which hasnt been proved - he was guilty.Guilty of what?Putting rubbish in a litter bin - shock horror - he should have just lashed it on the pavement minus his incriminating address in order to keep the street cleaner in a job.

Ever felt you are in a lose/lose situation.

[Drisgirl]

Suppose my wheelie bin attracts rats as well.

What do we pay our Council Tax for if its not partially for disposing of rubbish whether its in a wheelie bin or litter bin.

Concentrate on the litter louts who dump their chips n cheese at lunchtimes,smash their empty bottles of becks on the pavement and lash their leftover kebabs on the pavements on a Friday night along with their spewings.

At least the guy had the decency to put any rubbish in a bin and he is still castigated for it.

[Fat Boy]

y'know, when I read some of the rantings, sorry, postings on AB I often wonder if somehow I've ended up on the wrong planet. What on earth are you going on about? Natalie, Loosehead, Grunty, and Stoo-pid all gave very clear explanations. Which bit don't you get?

Oh, and your wheelie bin has a lid on it, so no, it doesn't attract rats.

Put down your Daily Record for a minute & ask yourself - do you really believe the council would go to all the trouble of tracking down an innocent man just because he put some junk mail in a rubbish bin? Think!

[Drisgirl]

Fat Boy - that was not a rant believe you me.

Do I know you?I thought your post was quite rude and a bit of a personal attack on me rather than you giving your opinion.

IMO - that is what AB is for and I think most people do abide by the unwritten rules and dont hide behind their user names to insult others.

Bet you are the type who wouldnt say boo to a goose but slap the back of your head when you are posting something nasty.Oh well whatever turns you on.:)

Have you got snow where you are?We have - you just think you're into spring and winter bites you in the bum again.Oh well - nice speaking at you:)

[Drisgirl]

Fat - Boy - Yes that ws a personal insult - not something I would do (2nd last para).

I suggest you have only read the other posts and have not seen the newspaper report and the TV footage.The bin did have a lid on it like mine does but invariably by bin day the lid is no longer of any use - so effectively I could attract rats.Anyway I still stand by what I said.

Sorry ray - I dont like to disrupt othere peoples posts but I felt justified in responding.Hold my tonque from now on - apologies:)

[Fat Boy]

Of course I've seen the footage, heard the radio & read the papers before I post my comments - maybe it escaped you but that was the entire point of what I was going on about. Which is much more than most people in the threads I've been involved in recently. In fact I make sure I read as many examples as I can before I put finger to keyboard. I've even resorted to phoning the relevant authorities before to make sure I've got my facts right before posting - just ask madein78.

That's how I knew that this person was not fined for just putting a bit of junk mail in the bin. Yet you seemed to think he was - did you not read the papers?

Apologies if you took my moaning personally, it was aimed at anyone that can't be @rsed to check all the facts available to them before posting their strongly-held opinons. Of course, you are fully entitled to your opinion, however misinformed. As I am, mine. I just prefer to have mine backed with facts.

[Drisgirl]

I did back it up Fat Boy and I suppose I then went on a tangent in the respect of the rubbish lashed on the street.Guilty as charged.

I respect others opinions and you will find in general I do - I just dont like personal insults (call me human).

I appreciate your comments though and we shall just beg to differ:)

[Kenzie]

I agree with the advice about returning junk mail to sender, without a stamp, so they have to pay for the postage. It's annoying when you get a dozen leaflets falling out of a magazine though. One of my neighbours got a telling off from the council for putting these in her green recycling box (newspapers/magazines). Hope they change that rule when they start charging us by the weight of the rubbish they remove in our black bins.