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Neilzulu1 | 15:46 Wed 09th May 2007 | News
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After the abduction of that poor little girl in Portugal. Is it not time that we should adopt a complete zero tolerance on animals that prey on kids. I know it is not a foregone conclusion that it is indeed a nonce responsible, but i sadly feel it is but a matter of time until it is the case. I wish that we could bring back hanging for these b##tards. Kids should be safe all of the time. Parents should not have to worry about deviants . (Footnote) Please do not post comments regarding "why did the parents leave her there ?" as i am sure they will live with that for the rest of their lives.
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I totally agree, zero tolerance. What about that guy who was convicted of murdering the polish student in Scotland recently. He had previous form for holding and subjecting two girls (about 12 or 13 yrs) to a prolonged sexual assualt, yet he was free to murder somone else.

They have just said on the news that the portugese police are now considering that the abduction was for a sexual nature, about bl00dy time, this should have been looked into initially following her abduction although I presume it was but they did not want to release that at the time.

Anyway I digress, zero tolerance.
Can we not call them animals either then please? As far as I'm aware no animal would kidnap (animalnap?) another animals young for their own perverted sexual pleasure.
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You choose a name for them then .
I did actually think you were suggesting she'd been snatched by an animal. Like the dingo attack in Australia.

It was news to me.

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Christ , where have you been ? I wonder if answerbank would start a poll on the front page to see the depth of feeling regarding re installing hanging for sex crimes ?
No need for them to put it on the front page, Neil.

It's debated in the news section about 3 times a week.
Whilst I am not in favour of the death sentence, in cases such as this i would definitely be swayed.

Actually I am really really angry and want to fill this post with obscene language toward the perpetrator of this crime. AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
I wholeheartedly agree with you Neil & even though I've called these undesirables 'Animals' myself, it is an insult to them! The Animals I mean, not the perpetrators!

However, the first word that came to mind was 'Nonce', so I Googled & found this:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term =nonce
Sorry Neil - just re-read your question & note that you've already posted the same word!
No second chances. I wouldn't say bring back hanging, but a quick lethal injection wouldn't go amiss.
Even nonce is too kind a word to describe these evil evil sub humans - MONSTER would be more fitting - but maybe someone can still come up with a better description for such evildoers ??
Anyone sexually abusing children should at least be locked away from society forever !!
Whilst it is easy to jump on the band wagon and agree with you, maybe some clarity would be useful

What age is a 'kid' for example? I am assuming that you don't mean anyone under the age of 18?

What is 'preying on'? Are we talking about sexual assaults only? I know of someone who was accused of kidnapping a child from a school (and it was covered in the local papers as a paedophile style attack). In fact it wasn't, it was actually the chaps daughter who the mother was refusing to let him see.

I am also assuming that 'proper' justice is done and there are the proper appeals procedures.

There is an interesting study here: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs/r144.pdf
According to this research (and not wild ass guesses / Tabloid sensationalism) there is a good proportion of paedophiles who respond to treatment and do not reconvict.

That said there is still the risk of attacks and scarring innocent children.

Personally, I think I would accept the death penalty for convicted paedophiles in the high / medium-high categories.
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All sex crimes should be punished.Todays flasher is tomorrows rapist !!
When you say zero tolerance what have you envisaged as the consequence for someone who may transgress this limit and offends once, twice or maybe more?
Is this likely to be imprisonment for life or a more violent response such as physical assault including killing of another person (sometimes more politely described as the death sentence)?
When are these animals (sic) to dealt with? Are you suggesting that the 12 year old who I worked with today who had sexually assaulted his sister is dealt with your view of zero tolerance? What about the abuser who is a close relative - have you thought how the victim of the abuse might feel if her/his loved family member was harmed?
Or can your perceived justice system sort out those who need the most severe punishment and those who need treatment. Or do we condemn the entirely the guilty not worrying about the impact of the non offenders and the victims?
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The response that today�s flashers are tomorrow�s rapists. Is this a personal view or a professional view? What is your evidence base? Not that there isn�t some level of linkage, but not necessarily irrevocable steps, someone who exposes themselves are not inevitably going on to become rapists. (Professional knowledge) I wondered if it was evidence based fact or just the usual wild emotive unfounded statement?
I agree with you ruby.

There is no evidence provided backing up the 'flasher' statement.

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You seem to make several excuses in your statements. All i am saying is that these dirty perverts do not belong in society. We should get rid of them asap, parents all over the country are scared to let their children out of their sight for any time span. Why should we put up with this. Hang the f##king lot of them. Oh and by the way, are you some hippie social worker ?
No.

Are you a qualified psychotherapist?
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No, but i am not a blind do gooder either !!
I don't see any answers to the questions.

1) What age is a kid?
2) What is 'preying on'?

How can you ask for people to join in your condemnation without answering basic questions?

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