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3 years for killing 6 people?
is this a joke a foreign driver got 3 years of which he will serve 1 year for killing 6 members of a family through "careless driving" its disgusting like the family said it was a circus in court
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Is your complaint more to do with the fact this driver was 'foreign' or that he got such a light sentence?
Personally I think his nationality is irrelevant,he should have got a longer time inside regardless,unfortunately the judge has to follow sentencing guidelines and had to make the six terms of 3 years run concurrently not consecutively.
By the way,it wasn't proved that the driver had been looking at his laptop......it seems likely that he was but the law needs proof.
Personally I think his nationality is irrelevant,he should have got a longer time inside regardless,unfortunately the judge has to follow sentencing guidelines and had to make the six terms of 3 years run concurrently not consecutively.
By the way,it wasn't proved that the driver had been looking at his laptop......it seems likely that he was but the law needs proof.
There is a massive difference in a person deliberately setting out to kill another person, by any method, and a person driving carelessly which results in death(s).
There was another thread here by a person who is being 'done' for careless driving - the sun was blinding and he couldn't see but pulled out of his cul de sac anyway and hit a cyclist - minor injuries.
Some posters said 'accidents happen' and the poster could not accept he had done anything wrong.
It was pure chance the poster didn't kill anybody, and it is tragic that the car this lorry driver hit was carrying 6 people and they died.
I think the sentence is right - it is not the result of the action he can be judged for, but the action he did. He would have been just as guilty had he hit a crash barrier with no injuries.
There was another thread here by a person who is being 'done' for careless driving - the sun was blinding and he couldn't see but pulled out of his cul de sac anyway and hit a cyclist - minor injuries.
Some posters said 'accidents happen' and the poster could not accept he had done anything wrong.
It was pure chance the poster didn't kill anybody, and it is tragic that the car this lorry driver hit was carrying 6 people and they died.
I think the sentence is right - it is not the result of the action he can be judged for, but the action he did. He would have been just as guilty had he hit a crash barrier with no injuries.
gina32, It works both ways - there have been instances of Brits being involved in horrific driving instances abroad as well. However, the law of any land cannot and should not be changed just because of your nationality.
It does, on the face of it, seem I've no doubt to lots of people that this guy got off lightly. But it's not his fault if the law is not as punitive as some of us may wish it to be.
If you feel so strongly about it, lobby your local MP, for example, to have the law stiffened. But personally I wouldn't hold my breath!
It does, on the face of it, seem I've no doubt to lots of people that this guy got off lightly. But it's not his fault if the law is not as punitive as some of us may wish it to be.
If you feel so strongly about it, lobby your local MP, for example, to have the law stiffened. But personally I wouldn't hold my breath!
'Causing death by careless or inconsiderate driving' is a fairly new invention (Road Traffic Act 2006). We used to have only 'causing death by 'dangerous driving' with the result that someone whose driving was merely careless but which had the consequence of causing a death was , and could be,only charged with 'careless driving'.
'Death by dangerous' was itself introduced because juries did not like convicting anyone of the offence of manslaughter.
As pointed out, this was but one incident, and it was of 'careless driving'.
'Death by dangerous' was itself introduced because juries did not like convicting anyone of the offence of manslaughter.
As pointed out, this was but one incident, and it was of 'careless driving'.
no my complaint want that he was foreign but it has been proved that foreign drivers are not as "good "as uk driviers because they are on the opposite side of the road
If your complaint wasn't about him being foreign, why include that irrevevant detail? When British lorry drivers drive abroad, and drive on the other side of the road, are you saying they are dangerous?
If your complaint wasn't about him being foreign, why include that irrevevant detail? When British lorry drivers drive abroad, and drive on the other side of the road, are you saying they are dangerous?
Booldawg, if you think that, I suggest you don't try it! If you use your car against someone, intending to cause grievous bodily harm, and kill, you'll be charged with murder soon enough (and you don't have to have intended to kill them to be guilty of it, either).
Everhelpful, how would you rewrite the common law of England (manslaughter, murder) and any statutes (Road Traffic Acts) to bring the result which you crave?
Everhelpful, how would you rewrite the common law of England (manslaughter, murder) and any statutes (Road Traffic Acts) to bring the result which you crave?
