Banning smoking in cars?

[R1Geezer]

Is anyone else absolutely amazed that there are smokers who are so selfish that they gas their own children in a car? Should it be necessary to legislate in this area, surely smokers should not be so selfish. I know they ain't the sharpest knives in the box but please!

Any smokers here who will own up to doing this and perhaps explain their reasoning?

[jacksprat16]

i work in an nhs hospital and ive seen parents take the day/s old baby out of the door into their car and with the mother in the back seat and partner/husband in the driving seat both light up before setting off
i know it's not illegal to do this but sometimes i could weep for the child's future.

[beso]

It is not only unhealthy for those in the car it is dangerous. Holding a burning cigarette, let alone lighting it is an impediment to safe driving. All other drug use while driving is illegal. Using a mobile phone while driving is illegal.

Butts discarded from cars is a leading cause of bushfires.

Our streets are littered with thousands of butts. They represent the most common form of littering.

I can't walk down the street without inhaling the drug. No other drug would be toleratd in this way. Smokers can blow smole in another persons face without penalty.

I firmly believe all smoking in public places and in all cars should be outlawed.

[craft1948]

I smoked in the car when my daughter was young, but this was 30-odd years ago when smoking was socially acceptable.......I am happy to report she is alive and healthy.......

[sqad617]

c raft....are you healthy?

Plenty of time for 30yurold daughter to become "unhealthy"
Does sge smoke? Has she got children?

[craft1948]

hi sqad.....my daughter does not smoke....is now 39 and is as fit as a lop.....was a champion squash player as well. How she was even born amazes me as when I was pregnant I smoked, drank, and ate soft cheese, pate, and offal.....all of which you are told not to nowadays....she was a full term baby and had a natural birth.
I am not healthy but this is nothing to do with smoking and all to do with playing too much competitive sport for 30 odd years whilst still a smoker...sorry

[sqad617]

craft.....not snooker I hope.......LOL

Your daughter is to be admired craft.....and you of course.

[R1Geezer]

craft: But did you not give a though at the time for how unpleasant it must have been for a small child in an enclosed space? Ok it was socially acceptable but it is still unpleasant. Do smokers imagine that non smokers find the smell anything other than unpleasant?

[craft1948]

sqad I am not championing smoking at all....it definitely is not clever....my daughter says that I put her off smoking..not for any health issues but just the smell.....I aren't allowed to smoke in her car or her house......

[sqad617]

craft...BUPA and "perky breasts".....that will do nicely for sqad.

[craft1948]

Geezer back in the 70's I don't think smokers considered anything like that. You could smoke anywhere including offices and pubs.....and people weren't walking around wafting their hands or air fresheners at you. You could even smoke sat up in your bed in the maternity hospital.

[wolf63]

My mum was a heavy smoker from age 11, she gave birth to twp premature babies (otherwise healthy though) and even though she did eventually give up smoking she died at the age of 58 from emphysema - after years of fighting for breath.

I have never smoked and my brother gave up about 10+ years ago. But I think that to make smokers feel like outcasts will not help. Make pubs create smoking and non-smoking sections etc.

I am fat, people see this, but the damage done by smoking is invisible.

I don't know the answer to the problem - it would be nice to see the statistics of what % of the population smokes in 2009 to 1999 etc,,

[BertiWooster]

Are you amazed that a father and mother can starve their child to death ?

Are you amazed that a nursery worker can be involved in sexual assault of , and making, distributing images , depicting abuse of youngsters ?

[jacksprat16]

that's true you could smoke in your hospital bed when i first started in the nhs and patients can still smoke but have to go out of the hospital grounds (drip stands and all) to be honest they look disgusting especially the pregnant mothers, i also remember going to the cinema and my eyes used to sting from the smokers fags but it was the norm then no one thought it was wrong you just accepted it

[craft1948]

Geezer may I say that your comment 'they ain't the sharpest knives in the box' was rather uncalled for....many extremely intelligent people smoke whether you agree with it or (obviously) not......

[Gromit]

OK, you ban them smoking in their cars, then they get home to their small rooms and light up. Is there a difference? Would the next step be to ban them smoking in their homes if they have children?

[craft1948]

Gromit I think the talk of a ban is ridiculous. The scenario I spoke of was years ago....I think people forget it is only relatively recently that the attitudes to smokers and smoking has changed. I remember watching films in which smoking appeared to be virtually compulsory. I am and always will be a smoker but nowadays common sense dictates I would not dream of smoking around my friends young children or grandchildren. The people who smoke in cars nowadays with young children are not stupid smokers.,...they are simply stupid people.

[DrFilth]

I know they ain't the sharpest knives in the box but please!

Einstein smoked and he once said
I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs". Indeed, it is difficult to measure the calming qualities of pipe smoking and the possible beneficial effects on our work, productivity, relationships, and relaxation.


Einstein published over 300 scientific works and over 150 non-scientific works. Einstein is revered by the physics community, and in 1999 Time magazine named him the "Person of the Century". In wider culture the name "Einstein" has become synonymous with genius.





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[KARL]

Regarding the proposition 'They smoked all their lives and still it did not kill them' is no proof that smoking does not do harm but instead proves that some are remarkably robust. The suggestion is analogous to say you walked blindfolded across a busy road and got to the other side unharmed - the trick is not to be recommended because the next one attempting it may not be so lucky. My father smoked from the age of 14 to his death and I told him long before he died that I resented what he was doing because he was killing my dad. He died of smoking related illness, and nobody was surprised.

[beso]

Einstien was not considered a genius for smoking. It was his published work with the most important done by age 35. Nobody claims that smoking was responsible for his genius. His smoking does not make it an intelligent thing to do.

People who inflict their drugs on others are selfish inconsiderate a$$holes and others should not have to tolerate exposure to their toxic emissions.

People who smoke dope have to do it in private while police have powers to break down their door on the mere suspicion of it being used inside. I really don't think it is too much to ask tobacco addicts to keep their drug use to themselves.

[DrFilth]

beso would you say
( he ain't the sharpest knives in the box )



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