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http://www.dailymail....tion-camp-stolen.html
Isn't it now time, the rest of this macabre tourist attraction, was now bulldozed?
Isn't it now time, the rest of this macabre tourist attraction, was now bulldozed?
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With a wife that used to be Jewish,was in Auschwitz,before being "force marched" to Bergen Belsen,where she was reliieved by MY regiment (although we didn't meet till 3 years after) I am sure people can realise where we stand on this question.
I find sqad's views sad (as they are ignorant) more than offensive.
I find sqad's views sad (as they are ignorant) more than offensive.
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i believe it should be kept as a lasting memorial to the victims of the genocide that took place there, the french did the same with this place, http://www.oradour.info/ ive been there and its very harrowing. see also here.
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Dave.
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Dave.
"If it was torn down and a proper memorial built such as the WW1 Menin Gate Memorial (Ypres);"
There are plenty of well-preserved sections of trenches that you can go and see in France. In fact I think there is one at Ypres.
"Perhaps we should wheel out the block and axe onto Tower green, or the gallows at Tyburn, or perhaps the rack even, plenty of tourist attraction in these. "
You can see all kinds of stuff like that at the Tower of London.
I've visited Belsen and Sachsenhausen. DVDs and books don't hammer home the reality of it in quite the same way. The fact is that while man hasn't necessarily learned from his own inhumanity, most of it isn't that well preserved - only documented. There's not much left apart from records and some archaeology to testify, say, to Ghengis Khan's atrocities. In the case of Auschwitz, we have something that's very rare - a more-or-less intact remainder. I
Plus the camps I've been to certainly aren't just grisly tourist attractions as you seem to think they are - Belsen, for instance, is like one big memorial. Sachsenhausen's different but it's still very strongly geared towards reflection. While humanity can't wear a hair shirt over its atrocities, it's not often we have quite so tangibly preserved an example of what people are capable of. If we got rid of it, I think it'd be a long time before we had anything like it left.
There are plenty of well-preserved sections of trenches that you can go and see in France. In fact I think there is one at Ypres.
"Perhaps we should wheel out the block and axe onto Tower green, or the gallows at Tyburn, or perhaps the rack even, plenty of tourist attraction in these. "
You can see all kinds of stuff like that at the Tower of London.
I've visited Belsen and Sachsenhausen. DVDs and books don't hammer home the reality of it in quite the same way. The fact is that while man hasn't necessarily learned from his own inhumanity, most of it isn't that well preserved - only documented. There's not much left apart from records and some archaeology to testify, say, to Ghengis Khan's atrocities. In the case of Auschwitz, we have something that's very rare - a more-or-less intact remainder. I
Plus the camps I've been to certainly aren't just grisly tourist attractions as you seem to think they are - Belsen, for instance, is like one big memorial. Sachsenhausen's different but it's still very strongly geared towards reflection. While humanity can't wear a hair shirt over its atrocities, it's not often we have quite so tangibly preserved an example of what people are capable of. If we got rid of it, I think it'd be a long time before we had anything like it left.
Well let us have a look at what sqad “actually said as this has become somewhat of a vendetta and a few ABers have hopped on the bandwagon without reading the tread.
Firstly…..my initial response to the bulldozing of Auschwitz: …………////No it shouldn't be bulldozed./// That should go some way to answer some posters.
Unfortunately the post which was objected to was removed, so we cannot see the evidence and by the way I feel that removing a post containing an opinion opposite to another ABer being reported and deleted is in my opinion unacceptable and the Ed should be ashamed.
Yes I am anti-semetic…….my definition: : hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.
Hostility OR discrimination……………no mention of the word HATE in that definition.
Hostility is perhaps an over exaggeration, distrust, might be a better word.
Do I distrust ALL Jews? No.
Do I distrust the Jews as a race……YES
Why?…just personal experiences which are valueless as the are purely anecdotal.
Are my fears irrational…..probably, but I am entitled to them.
I have friends who are Jews, I have appointed Jewish members of staff after interview.
However for the Ed to delete a posting on the nod of a non-agreeing member is scandalous.
Firstly…..my initial response to the bulldozing of Auschwitz: …………////No it shouldn't be bulldozed./// That should go some way to answer some posters.
Unfortunately the post which was objected to was removed, so we cannot see the evidence and by the way I feel that removing a post containing an opinion opposite to another ABer being reported and deleted is in my opinion unacceptable and the Ed should be ashamed.
Yes I am anti-semetic…….my definition: : hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.
Hostility OR discrimination……………no mention of the word HATE in that definition.
Hostility is perhaps an over exaggeration, distrust, might be a better word.
Do I distrust ALL Jews? No.
Do I distrust the Jews as a race……YES
Why?…just personal experiences which are valueless as the are purely anecdotal.
Are my fears irrational…..probably, but I am entitled to them.
I have friends who are Jews, I have appointed Jewish members of staff after interview.
However for the Ed to delete a posting on the nod of a non-agreeing member is scandalous.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
I posted this link and you agreed that they were your views.
I posted this link and you agreed that they were your views.