Is it time for a Pol Pot ?

[kestrelg]

I think I'm older than any other contributors to this site and I've seen all the governments since Churchill's wartime group. Each successive government has got softer, more lenient and more frightened. particularly of the "politically correct " gestapo.
Has democracy had it's day. should we have a Pol Pot or a Stalin ?

[askyourgran]

O Cripes neither I remember the old days, I'd rather have the barmy PC gestapo than Stalin or Pol Pot they were absolute nutters.

[KaiHallarn111]

Oh sure, yeah, id love getting killed for being an intellectual or sent to a labour camp on false charges amongst other thinfs... Apart from that, another Pol Pot or Stalin would be wonderful....

[askyourgran]

Gordon doing his best he's manipulated the figures and replaced the one's he's killed off with immigrants.

[mike11111]

If Pol Pot and Stalin are the solution, I'd even stick with Gordon Brown (got to wash my mouth out)

[Kromovaracun]

"Each successive government has got softer, more lenient and more frightened. particularly of the "politically correct " gestapo."

So Thatcher's governments were 'softer' than those of Macmillan?

[jno]

ah yes, in Pol Pot's day anyone wearing glasses faced execution. They didn't waste bullets on them, just hit them on the head with a shovel in the fields, revving up a tractor to drown the screams.

These days, anyone with contact lenses would be included, of course.

That would certainly leave us with fewer but better Brits.

[Mr Veritas]

I have been voting now for 66 years.
Governments haven't gotten any softer or more lenient,they have just adjusted (as all political parties will) to ensure that they stay in power.
Just HWAT is this "politically correct" Gestapo/
I object to the use of the word as my wife was Jewish when I met her.
I hope you are not serious when you suggest that we should have a Stalin(who killed millions of his own innocent people) or Pol Pot who wanted to take the world back to Day1 (and also killed millions of his own innocent people)
Do you never read history?
I am surprised you haven't suggested a Hitler for the UK.
Well, I have (personally) seen what Hitler did,and I can tell you I would take a hundred years of "political correctness over one of Hitler's (or indeed Stalin or Pol Pot).
Would you like me to post some pictures of their attrocities?
I think you are very nave(I hope) and I hope you are not a youngster,because your views and ideas are far more dangerous that the ones you seek to decry.

Alec Veritas British Army Germany 1945 Repatriation of Bergen~Belsen Concentration Camp.

[Mr Veritas]

PS:~
I have just seen you say you are older than other contributors to this site(not a youngster,apologies)
Well,I am 87.
I think you must have been walking asleep through the governments in your life.

[society]

"I think I'm older than any other contributors to this site"

Mr. V is 87, can you clarify your age please?

[society]

Oops Mr. V your post weren't there before when I was about to post above ^^^. :-)

[KaiHallarn111]

I have to agree with Mr V here. My earlier snide comment aside, if you are as old as you claim to be then I fail to understand how the process of thought that led to this question could even have begun, let alone reached the internet. Maybe you should look at what Pol Pot and Stalin did to the ordinary people under their leadership and then reconsider this question. And if you have lived when these governments were in power, then you must have turned a blind eye.

[Mr Veritas]

Thats OK society.
Indeed KaiHallarn111
that's why I thought the poster was young,because if they had lived through Stalin and Pol Pot they wouldn't go blithely wanting to be ruled by them!
I hope we haven't scared them off,I find a good discussion gets my brain cells working(what brain cells I have left that is,I call them, Brenda & Brian!LOL)

[KaiHallarn111]

Mr V - I hope not either. I would be interested to know why he would prefer mass murder and destruction over the sort of things that have plagued democracy since its beginning, because it baffles me.
As for my braincell, its got all the fluff accumulated in my brain during my 21 years of existance to keep it warm xD

[jake-the-peg]

I note with interest that you suggest that a Stalin or Pol Pot might be a positive choice.

Yet you didn't chose a Hitler

And your "Gold Standard" seems to be Churchill ( a little ironic humour there for any economic historians that might be passing through)

I think your ideas might be a little confused.

Especially as I think that right wing authoritarian governments appeal mostly to the frightened

The cry of the dictator is "You are threatened by the

Jews / Communists / West / Immigrants.... but give me power and I'll save you"

It takes a braver government to trust it's people

Tony Blair was braver than Margaret Thatcher.

He was brave enough to get peace in Northern Ireland despite the risk of people not accepting that the price was releasing prisoners.

Margaret Thatcher was too frightened to do that

[123everton]

Jake's post was excellent.
Pol Pot was awful, you could get imprisoned for writing love letters to your husband in his Cambodia.
Kemal would be a better example, although his government was deeply flawed, he did build a sovreign nation.

[TTG]

Sorry for saying this but we should have someone strong like Thatcher who stood up to everything the EU, Unions, Argentina and the rest threw at us. She was not perfect (see poll tax) but came across as someone who was always putting the UK people first.

[TTG]

Just seen Jakes answer. Blair was just after lining his own pocket.